Necessities of Morrowind script error

[Dragon32]

Is that load order (post #4) still accurate? The only thing I can think of is if the patch is loading before MC or NoM. Afraid I don't use either of these two mods so I've no experience of debugging them myself.

 

If you haven't already upgraded (you say you have MGSO) then get the latest mlox (0.60). I released the latest version of the rule-set a week or so back, mlox 0.59 automatically update the rule-set.

[Judassem]

Thanks for the heads-up, it seems I still had version 0.59 of mlox. I updated it to 0.60 now, but it didn't offer any changes. I'll still post my current load-order to be sure:

 

 

Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Morrowind Patch v1.6.6_beta.esm
abotWaterLife.esm
The Undead.esm
Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
MW_Children_1_0.esm
Texture Fix 2.0.esm
Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.1.esm
TR_Data.esm
TR_Mainland.esm
MCA.esm
BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm
Wyrmhaven.esm
Westly_Presents_BB_Almalexia_Add_on.esp
Westly_Presents_FCOT.esp
Nymeria's Faster Walk.esp
OfficialMods_v5.esp
COI.ESP
SirLuthor-Tools.esp
Unique Banners and Signs.esp
Better Bodies.esp
Windows Glow.esp
Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
JEB_muffin_fix.esp
Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
Better Skulls.ESP
abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
abotWindowsGlow.esp
Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
bones.esp
Shieldfx.esp
Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
frostmoth_repaired_v0_31.esp
KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_2.0.esp
BetterClothesForTB.esp
correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
Bloated Caves.esp
The Undead - TR Addon.esp
Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
MCA8names.esp
abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
MCA8TRnames.esp
Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
CoM_Fix.ESP
Hold it - replacer.esp
ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
almalexia armor.esp
Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp
More Better Clothes.ESP
New Lord's Mail.ESP
Golden Gold.esp
New Voices.esp
Sleepers, Awake!.esp
guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
MW Containers Animated TR.esp
Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
imperial chain fix.esp
MDP 2013.esp
Master Index Journalfix.esp
BuyoantArmigersArmor.ESP
Smart_Crosshair.esp
Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
Better Weapons and Armors.esp
Djangos Dialogue.ESP
TR_WestlyFCOT_Addon2.ESP
Better Robes.ESP
UFR_v3dot2.esp
UF_HortRobeF001.esp
Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp
LGNPC_NoLore.esp
PSsorticon.esp
LGNPC_SeydaNeen.esp
LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_MaarGan.esp
Mills of Morrowind.esp
LGNPC_HlaOad.esp
LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_Aldruhn_suppl.esp
LGNPC_Pelagiad.esp
LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp
LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp
LGNPC_VivecFQ.esp
LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
LGNPC_VivecRedoran.esp
LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
Keyring.esp
LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
TLM - Complete.esp
New Bodies - Clean.esp
Female Armor - Complete.esp
STA_guides_replacer.esp
NoM_CoM Compatibility Patch.esp
Hold it - SF npc addon.esp
Ships of the Imperial Navy.esp
Morrowind Crafting Patch.esp
Animated_Morrowind - merged.esp
Better_Sounds.esp
ring_teleport cost_Tealpanda.esp
Spirit's MGSO Daedric Armor Fixes.esp
Hold it - COM addon.ESP
MW Containers Animated.esp
MQE_CrowdControl.ESP
MQE_GarrisonedGhostgate.ESP
Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
JAC_Jasmine.esp
BS_BM_WeatherChange.esp
Graphic Herbalism.esp
GH MC Patch.esp
Better Robes TR.esp
Better Robes TR_Patch.esp
Better Robes_v0.3.1 Patch.esp
UFR_v3dot2_Patch.esp
Poorly Placed Object Fix SN Walls+Rock Patch.esp
Dreamers Expansion.ESP
MCA - TR Addon.esp
MCA - Westly's FCOT Addon.esp
Graphic Herbalism TR.ESP
Umbra, Blademaster.ESP
NoM 3.0.esp
NOM3fix.esp
NoM_BF Compatibility Patch.esp
Hold it - NoM addon.ESP
NoM_MC Compatibility Patch.esp
Mashed Lists.esp

 

 

Now when I check the load order carefully, I can see two mistakes, plus a possible one. Can you add them to the mlox rule-set?

 

1) Morrowind Crafting Patch.esp should load JUST AFTER Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp. As it is now, the patch loads before the main mod itself.

2) NoM_CoM Compatibility Patch.esp should load AFTER Necessities of Morrowind (main mod) and Children of Morrowind. As it is now, it loads after CoM but before NoM.

3) (I'm not sure about this) Djangos Dialogue.ESP is all about dialogues. So, if the user has some LGNPC mods, I think it should load before them so as not to override anything in LGNPC. I remember Django saying that his mod should be compatible with LGNPC mods though; so this may not be necessary.

Edited October 21, 2014 by Judassem

[Dragon32]

Thanks for the heads-up, it seems I still had version 0.59 of mlox. I updated it to 0.60 now, but it didn't offer any changes.

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The only difference between 0.59 and 0.60 is that 0.60 won't error if it can't connect to the interwebs when checking for an updated rule-set to download. You're already running the latest rule-set so bang goes that idea.

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I'll still post my current load-order to be sure:

 

 

Morrowind.esm

Tribunal.esm

Bloodmoon.esm

Morrowind Patch v1.6.6_beta.esm

abotWaterLife.esm

The Undead.esm

Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm

MW_Children_1_0.esm

Texture Fix 2.0.esm

Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.1.esm

TR_Data.esm

TR_Mainland.esm

MCA.esm

BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm

Wyrmhaven.esm

Westly_Presents_BB_Almalexia_Add_on.esp

Westly_Presents_FCOT.esp

Nymeria's Faster Walk.esp

OfficialMods_v5.esp

COI.ESP

SirLuthor-Tools.esp

Unique Banners and Signs.esp

Better Bodies.esp

Windows Glow.esp

Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp

JEB_muffin_fix.esp

Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp

Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp

Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp

WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP

Better Skulls.ESP

abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp

Particle Arrow Replacer.esp

Psy_VGR_Armour.esp

MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp

Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp

Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp

abotWindowsGlow.esp

Statue Replacer - Normal.esp

bones.esp

Shieldfx.esp

Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp

Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp

Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp

Better Clothes_v1.1.esp

NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp

Neo's Unique Creatures.esp

frostmoth_repaired_v0_31.esp

KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_2.0.esp

BetterClothesForTB.esp

correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp

Bloated Caves.esp

The Undead - TR Addon.esp

Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp

MCA8names.esp

abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp

MCA8TRnames.esp

Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp

CoM_Fix.ESP

Hold it - replacer.esp

ExcellentMagicSounds.esp

almalexia armor.esp

Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp

More Better Clothes.ESP

New Lord's Mail.ESP

Golden Gold.esp

New Voices.esp

Sleepers, Awake!.esp

guarskin_drum_replacer.esp

LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp

MW Containers Animated TR.esp

Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp

Clean MCFC_1.0.esp

imperial chain fix.esp

MDP 2013.esp

Master Index Journalfix.esp

BuyoantArmigersArmor.ESP

Smart_Crosshair.esp

Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp

Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp

Better Weapons and Armors.esp

Djangos Dialogue.ESP

TR_WestlyFCOT_Addon2.ESP

Better Robes.ESP

UFR_v3dot2.esp

UF_HortRobeF001.esp

Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp

LGNPC_NoLore.esp

PSsorticon.esp

LGNPC_SeydaNeen.esp

LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp

LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp

LGNPC_MaarGan.esp

Mills of Morrowind.esp

LGNPC_HlaOad.esp

LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp

LGNPC_Aldruhn_suppl.esp

LGNPC_Pelagiad.esp

LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp

LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp

LGNPC_VivecFQ.esp

LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp

LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp

LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp

LGNPC_VivecRedoran.esp

LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp

Keyring.esp

LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp

TLM - Complete.esp

New Bodies - Clean.esp

Female Armor - Complete.esp

STA_guides_replacer.esp

NoM_CoM Compatibility Patch.esp

Hold it - SF npc addon.esp

Ships of the Imperial Navy.esp

Morrowind Crafting Patch.esp

Animated_Morrowind - merged.esp

Better_Sounds.esp

ring_teleport cost_Tealpanda.esp

Spirit's MGSO Daedric Armor Fixes.esp

Hold it - COM addon.ESP

MW Containers Animated.esp

MQE_CrowdControl.ESP

MQE_GarrisonedGhostgate.ESP

Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp

Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp

JAC_Jasmine.esp

BS_BM_WeatherChange.esp

Graphic Herbalism.esp

GH MC Patch.esp

Better Robes TR.esp

Better Robes TR_Patch.esp

Better Robes_v0.3.1 Patch.esp

UFR_v3dot2_Patch.esp

Poorly Placed Object Fix SN Walls+Rock Patch.esp

Dreamers Expansion.ESP

MCA - TR Addon.esp

MCA - Westly's FCOT Addon.esp

Graphic Herbalism TR.ESP

Umbra, Blademaster.ESP

NoM 3.0.esp

NOM3fix.esp

NoM_BF Compatibility Patch.esp

Hold it - NoM addon.ESP

NoM_MC Compatibility Patch.esp

Mashed Lists.esp

 

 

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I'm afraid I'm stumped, the copies of NoM 3.0.esp I have (from 303a) have the two fire objects referenced in the scripts. I have no clue how they're disappearing. About the last thing I can suggest is patching your executable with the Morrowind Code Patch, but I guess you've done that?

 

<snip>

Now when I check the load order carefully, I can see two mistakes, plus a possible one. Can you add them to the mlox rule-set?

 

1) Morrowind Crafting Patch.esp should load JUST AFTER Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp. As it is now, the patch loads before the main mod itself.

<snip>

Where's "Morrowind Crafting Patch.esp" from? It's not a plugin name that's in the rule-set.

 

<snip>

2) NoM_CoM Compatibility Patch.esp should load AFTER Necessities of Morrowind (main mod) and Children of Morrowind. As it is now, it loads after CoM but before NoM.

<snip>

The CoM patch just moves around some objects defined in CoM (in Thirsk and Gnisis). It doesn't affect anything in NoM at all. As long as it loads after CoM it'll be fine, as CoM's an ESM there's no need for an Order rule.

 

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3) (I'm not sure about this) Djangos Dialogue.ESP is all about dialogues. So, if the user has some LGNPC mods, I think it should load before them so as not to override anything in LGNPC. I remember Django saying that his mod should be compatible with LGNPC mods though; so this may not be necessary.

There's already an Order rule to load Django's Dialogue before all the LGNPC mods. I've done this for a few other mods which add general dialogue: add an Order rule so they load before the LGNPC mods.

 

Thanks for taking the time to post that information.

[Judassem]

 

 

I'm afraid I'm stumped, the copies of NoM 3.0.esp I have (from 303a) have the two fire objects referenced in the scripts. I have no clue how they're disappearing. About the last thing I can suggest is patching your executable with the Morrowind Code Patch, but I guess you've done that?

 

Yeah, I did that :(

 

 

 

Where's "Morrowind Crafting Patch.esp" from? It's not a plugin name that's in the rule-set.

 

It's from here: http://abitoftaste.altervista.org/morrowind/index.php?option=downloads&task=info&id=40&Itemid=50

 

 

 

The CoM patch just moves around some objects defined in CoM (in Thirsk and Gnisis). It doesn't affect anything in NoM at all. As long as it loads after CoM it'll be fine, as CoM's an ESM there's no need for an Order rule.

 

I didn't know that, no problem then.

 

 

 

There's already an Order rule to load Django's Dialogue before all the LGNPC mods. I've done this for a few other mods which add general dialogue: add an Order rule so they load before the LGNPC mods.

 

I see, but if you look at my load-order, you can see that Django's Dialogue loads before Less Generic Bloodmoon, Less Generic Nerevarine and Less Generic Tribunal. Though I vaguely remember that they were unofficial LGNPC mods, that could be why.

[Dragon32]

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Where's "Morrowind Crafting Patch.esp" from? It's not a plugin name that's in the rule-set.[/size]

It's from here: http://abitoftaste.altervista.org/morrowind/index.php?option=downloads&task=info&id=40&Itemid=50

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Ah! Thanks for the link.

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There's already an Order rule to load Django's Dialogue before all the LGNPC mods. I've done this for a few other mods which add general dialogue: add an Order rule so they load before the LGNPC mods.[/size]

I see, but if you look at my load-order, you can see that Django's Dialogue loads before Less Generic Bloodmoon, Less Generic Nerevarine and Less Generic Tribunal. Though I vaguely remember that they were unofficial LGNPC mods, that could be why.

 

Oh, Ostar's mods. Yeah, so whilst Ostar's one of the main writers of LGNPC he made the three Less Generic mods on his won. He didn't feel it was right to give them the LGNPC label.

 

Anyway, extending that Order rule to Ostar's mods makes sense (so e.g. loading Django's mod before them).

 

Sorry I can't be more help on you NoM issue. It all looks like it should be working :shrug:

 

Actually, just checked and the Activator "NOM_pitfire_off" (and the other one) were only added in Nom 3.03 and weren't in earlier versions of the ESP. Try re-extracting the NoM plugin from "NoM_patch_303a.rar"

Edited October 22, 2014 by Dragon32

[Judassem]

Dude, that fixed it! :D It seems Wrye Mash didn't really install the latest patch. I uninstalled NoM, then installed it together with its patches manually, and voila! Problem solved. Thanks a lot :)

[Dragon32]

Dude, that fixed it! :D It seems Wrye Mash didn't really install the latest patch. I uninstalled NoM, then installed it together with its patches manually, and voila! Problem solved. Thanks a lot :smile:

Excellent! Glad that got fixed, it must've been very frustrating.

 

And thanks for your suggestions for mlox, I'll get those into the next update.