Cannot launch Skyrim without Dawnguard activated!

[KingArtemis]

Hi this is my first post on a forum anywhere ever so forgive me if I don't give the right info/ sound out of my element.

 

I recently installed Dawnguard from Steam. I use around >100 mods (most are quests but a lot are environmental or game play related). I only played for a bout an hour before I start get random freezes, and corrupted auto-saves files. I checked all my mods and had compatibility patches for all mods that required it. I was still getting unusual freezes. I read about many issues with Dawnguard compatibility so I decided to uninstall the dlc. In NMM, I unchecked Dawnguard and all DG related mods. The problem now is that whenever I launch Skyrim, I get a CtD at the logo. But, when I re-activate Dawnguard I make it to the main menu. Wtf this is crazy. Apparently now I can't run my game unless DG is activated. And having DG gives me an unstable game...any help appreciated!!

 

My computer specs:

 

Operating System

Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit

CPU

Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.40GHz 38 °C

Haswell 22nm Technology

RAM

8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)

Motherboard

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z87X-UD3H-CF (SOCKET 0) 28 °C

Graphics

ASUS VS247 (1920x1080@60Hz)

Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Gigabyte)

2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (EVGA) 32 °C

Storage

931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1CH162 (SATA) 30 °C

My mod order (minus DG related mods) is:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Falskaar.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

SplashofRain.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

Birds.esp

Birdsofskyrim.esp

High Level Enemies.esp

High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp

Immersive Battles.esp

Immersive Factions.esp

Immersive Mercenaries.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Immersive Werewolves.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

moonpath_tp.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Smoking Torches.esp

StormcloakArmorVariety.esp

VariedGuards.esp

CrowdedCities.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Footprints.esp

WetandCold.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

DeadlyMonsters.esp

AdalMatar.esp

quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

tos_granitehall.esp

hg.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp

Markarth_plus.esp

quest_nomercy.esp

OBIS.esp

quest_pitfighter.esp

quest_sorcery.esp

quest_seaofghosts.esp

Sentinel Falls.esp

SBT Smal3.esp

SBT Smal2.esp

SBT Smal1.esp .

quest_thebiggertheyare.esp

TheDomain.esp

TheFrontier.esp

Wyrmstooth.esp

ArtifactOverhaul.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

Grass_On_Steroids_SFO.esp

LegionArmorVariety.esp

Riften Bigger Trees.esp

SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp

SkyFalls - Falskaar Edition.esp

SkyMills - Animated Distant Mills.esp

SkyMills - Falskaar Edition.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

TAVERiften.esp

TAVESolitude.esp

TAVEWindhelm.esp

tos_amber_guard.esp

tos_laintardale.esp

tos_oakwood.esp

TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

CinematicFireFX.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

prod80_CoT_patch.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeonLighting.esp

SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

Duel - Combat Realism.esp

ACE Realistic Fighting.esp

ACE BYOG.esp

ACE Speech.esp

ACE Archery.esp

ACE Armor.esp

ACE Enchanting.esp

ACE Magic.esp

ACE Melee.esp

ACE Smithing.esp

ACE Synergy.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

3DNPC.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER Falskaar.esp

Automatic Variants.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

EzEWorldMap.esp

Thanks in advance!!

[Miguelr23]

deadly dragons requires dawnguard as far as i know, perhaps some other mod you have also requires it

[KingArtemis]

weird. I also have not been able to log into NMM so I assumed no mods could be updated but Deadly Dragons does say it requires DG now... Unfortunately I disabled Deadly dragons and skyrim still ctds on launch :sad:

 

As a side note, can I just reinstall NMM and all my mods will be in the same order/ activated or deactivated? Updating the mods automatically might solve this problem but I don't want to have to re download mods

 

EDIT: I realized that I forgot to deactivate Deadly Monsters (a part of deadly dragons), but after deactivation still no luck

Edited April 6, 2014 by KingArtemis

[Skyrabbit]

When you remove things like Dawnguard DLC and many other mods they leave behind scripts in your game save which the game tries to use. These 'orphaned' scripts cause all manner of problems. You can clean your game save using this utility.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

 

This may not be a solution but it will help rule out several issues.

[KingArtemis]

Since I can't even launch skyrim I'm not sure if this would be causing the problem, but I'll definitely give it a go and reply back :)

[KingArtemis]

well right away I loaded several different saves (auto and manual) but none of them had any scripts with the #->, which would indicate a bad script. This seems to not be the problem then

[Skyrabbit]

Agree! If you are not even getting to the load game point then scripts are not the issue.

I was going to suggest verifying your game files but that will re-install Dawnguard.

Sorry I cannot be more helpful. :sad:

[Miguelr23]

you should try disabling some mods and try again and see which mod requires dawnguard

or simply reinstall everything using mod organizer since that would say which mod has a missing master

Edited April 6, 2014 by Miguelr23

[Tengrikun]

Not a genius but I am certain you likely installed a mod with DG settings and those files are causing it to not load but out of curiosity why don't you want to play with DG turned on? A long but easy way to tell if your mods are causing the issue is to turn off all your mods then try to run the game then one by one you can hunt down the exact mod failure. Hope this helps you out.

[KingArtemis]

Tengrikun, I would play with DG but I started get very strange freezes/ctds when playing with it. Examples include loading up a save file, black screen with music forever; fighting some wolves and as i moved through some bushes to a river, immediate ctd; once just while running shortly after fast travel. Since I hadn't had errors like that in a while I believed it had to do with DG (plus i had just started using the crossbow maybe that was an issue?). I would like to play with DG and the last thing I would try is reinstalling NMM since for some reason I cannot connect to nexusmods and login, therefore my mods can't all automatically update.

 

Hence the question regarding if i have to reorganize my mods after reinstalling nmm? If not, that would be a pain in the butt but probably my only option.