Highwayman300 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 I have followed several guides and advice from several sources and i still have CTD issues every 20 mins or less. I believe a specific mod is causing the issue, but i do not know which one. My papyrus log seems to have several issues too, but i lack the knowledge to understand them, so some help with it would be appreciated. Here is my load order: GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes.esm=1JSwords.esm=1SkyMoMod.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp=1ColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp=1Ars Metallica.esp=1ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=1Immersive Brigands.esp=1Immersive Factions.esp=1Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1Immersive Patrols.esp=1Immersive Travelers.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1TKDodge.esp=1ADTrueflame.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Duelist-Longcoat.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp=1RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp=1Masters of Death.esp=1armored-horses.esp=1DawnguardDawnbreaker_HolyFireEd.esp=1HelmetToggle2.02b.esp=1Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1Balanced_Magic.esp=1Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp=1SwordDance.esp=1UBW.esp=1ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1Enchanting Freedom.esp=1UltimateCombat.esp=1Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1TKcombat.esp=1MorePP.esp=1Animated Enchantments.esp=1Animated Weapon Enchants.esp=1chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp=1UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1Feminine Females.esp=1Better Followers - SP.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 And here is the log: Again, any help would be appreciated. I understand that removing the mod that is causing this will require in a new game, i just wish to remove whatever is hurting my game to decently play it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiegril Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Hi, please replace your mods list with your BOSS log.If you have not cleaned your DLCs and any flagged mods with TES5Edit, please do that first. Considering recent security issues, I do not open random files. Please copy/paste the portions of the papyrus log that you have questions about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highwayman300 Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 Alright, this is the boss log:Error: masterlist update failed.Details: cURL could not perform task! cURL response: "Protocol https not supported or disabled in libcurl".Check the Troubleshooting section of the ReadMe for more information and possible solutions.Note: Latest BOSS threadBNote: Your SKSE is up-to-date.Note: The order of plugins set by BOSS differs from their order in its masterlist, as one or more of the installed plugins is false-flagged. For more information, see "file:../Docs/BOSS%20Readme.html#appendix-c False-Flagged Plugins".SKSE Version: 0.1.7.0chargen.dllFPSCounter.dll Version: 2.1.0.0MemoryBlocksLog.dll Version: 0.1.2.0nioverride.dllSKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.15.1.1Smart Souls.dll Version: 9.0.6.405tkplugin.dllUltimateCombat.dllThese plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}Note: It is highly recommended that you also use the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ApachiiHairMales.esm ActiveSkyrim Project Optimization - No Homes.esm ActiveJSwords.esm ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here.SkyMoMod.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}Brawl Bugs CE.esp ActiveImmersive Sounds - Magic.esp ActiveColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp ActiveArs Metallica.esp ActiveExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Factions.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.SkyUI.esp ActiveTKDodge.esp ActiveADTrueflame.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Duelist-Longcoat.esp ActiveHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveError: SPIKE.esm is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dr_Bandolier.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp ActiveRiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Masters of Death.esp Activearmored-horses.esp ActiveDawnguardDawnbreaker_HolyFireEd.esp ActiveNote: Use only one DawnguardDawnbreaker esp.HelmetToggle2.02b.esp ActiveApocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveBalanced_Magic.esp ActivePhenderix's Magic Evolved.esp ActiveSwordDance.esp ActiveUBW.esp ActiveForgottenMagic_Redone.esp ActiveEnchanting Freedom.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.UltimateCombat.esp ActiveDual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp ActiveNote: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp.The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp ActiveTKcombat.esp ActiveMorePP.esp ActiveAnimated Enchantments.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveWarning: UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp required to work properly with Dawnguard (Official Bethesda DLC)Warning: UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp required to work properly with Hearthfires (Official Bethesda DLC)Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Feminine Females.esp ActiveBetter Followers - SP.esp ActiveWarning: Delete C01QuestScript.pex from data/scripts folder, if exist.Note: Use only one Better Followers - *.esp.Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActiveAnimated Weapon Enchants.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp ActiveThe following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp ActiveHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp ActiveFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp ActivechfshPlayerVoicesets.esp ActiveFSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highwayman300 Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 Here is the papyrus log:[04/09/2014 - 08:27:53AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)[04/09/2014 - 08:27:53AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)[04/09/2014 - 08:27:53AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)[04/09/2014 - 08:28:03AM] Cannot open store for class "ConjureHorseScript", missing file?[04/09/2014 - 08:28:03AM] Cannot open store for class "aaaUCTest", missing file?[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] warning: Property smash on script aaatkcinitquestscript attached to aaaTKCInitQuest (2F013B6C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] warning: Property draugrBase on script aaatkcinitquestscript attached to aaaTKCInitQuest (2F013B6C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] warning: Property bashStart on script DualWieldParryingSKSEQuestScript attached to DualWieldParryingSKSEQuest (2D000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] Error: Property Pages on script mz_HelmetToggleConfigMenu attached to mz_ScriptSpellQuest (24000D66) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] Error: Property aaaTKCKeySetMenu on script aaaTKCKeySetQuest attached to aaaTKCKeySetQuest (2F022313) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (2F022312) is not the right type[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] VM is freezing...[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] VM is frozen[04/09/2014 - 08:28:07AM] Reverting game...[04/09/2014 - 08:28:08AM] warning: Property HircinesRingPower on script companionshousekeepingscript attached to C00 (0004B2D9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:08AM] warning: Property smash on script aaatkcinitquestscript attached to aaaTKCInitQuest (2F013B6C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:08AM] warning: Property draugrBase on script aaatkcinitquestscript attached to aaaTKCInitQuest (2F013B6C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:08AM] warning: Property bashStart on script DualWieldParryingSKSEQuestScript attached to DualWieldParryingSKSEQuest (2D000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property[04/09/2014 - 08:28:08AM] Error: Property Pages on script mz_HelmetToggleConfigMenu attached to mz_ScriptSpellQuest (24000D66) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type[04/09/2014 - 08:28:08AM] Error: Property aaaTKCKeySetMenu on script aaaTKCKeySetQuest attached to aaaTKCKeySetQuest (2F022313) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (2F022312) is not the right type[04/09/2014 - 08:28:16AM] Loading game...[04/09/2014 - 08:28:17AM] VM is thawing...[04/09/2014 - 08:28:17AM] Error: File "Dragonborn.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.stack:<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?[ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].arth_lal_versiontrackingscript.DLCSupportCheck() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line ?[alias Player on quest ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line ?[04/09/2014 - 08:28:17AM] Error: File "Chesko_Frostfall.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.stack:<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?[ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].arth_lal_versiontrackingscript.DLCSupportCheck() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line ?[alias Player on quest ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line ?[04/09/2014 - 08:28:17AM] Error: File "Helgen Reborn.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.stack:<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?[ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].arth_lal_versiontrackingscript.DLCSupportCheck() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line ?[alias Player on quest ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line ?[04/09/2014 - 08:28:17AM] Error: File "teg_returntohelgen.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.stack:<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?[ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].arth_lal_versiontrackingscript.DLCSupportCheck() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line ?[alias Player on quest ARTHLALVersionTracking (38049F33)].ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "ARTH_LAL_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line ?[04/09/2014 - 08:28:18AM] Error: HasMagicEffect called with invalid Magic Effectstack:[ (0001A697)].transformationsafetyscript.HasMagicEffect() - "<native>" Line ?[ (0001A697)].transformationsafetyscript.OnUpdate() - "TransformationSafetyScript.psc" Line ?[04/09/2014 - 08:28:18AM] Error: HasMagicEffect called with invalid Magic Effectstack: ^ This line keeps spamming the log indefinitely, i believe this is the cause of an eventual crash. 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Georgiegril Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 It looks like you have removed scripted mods from your game, or attempted to start a new character without completely reverting to vanilla Skyrim. This would be the case if you did not follow the STEP guide to revert to vanilla.The only solution for this is to start a new game and character using the STEP guide revert to vanilla. Scripted mods cannot be completely removed from a game. This is a function of the game engine, not the fault of modders. There are a number of other problems present in your game, which would also be contributing to your crashes; although solving them will not solve your problem in this game, they need to be addressed as you create your mod list for the next character. These include:Address all messages in your BOSS log. Clean all DLCs and other flagged mods. Fix obsolete mod issues (see the note on the JSwords, use the linked mod instead.) Properly place all unrecognized mods. For example the eckkstra mod needs to go above immersive armors. This information is available on the mod authors page. YOu seem to be missing some patches, too, as noted by the BOSS log. Finally, I think you may be using an older version of BOSS, which could be why it is not updating your masterlist--the site changed hosting services. You can get BOSS 2.2 here, if you need it. BOSS 2.2 solves some of the problems your list shows with the unofficial patches and immersive armors. The below may help you in creating a new game without the problems you are currently experiencing.1. Go to STEP and follow the directions to revert to vanilla skyrim.2. Start a new game, do not attempt to apply an old save, it will not work and may reintroduce corruption back into your now clean game.3. Do not make any changes at all until you exit Helgen (the other option is to start with an alternate start mod to avoid the Helgen sequence.)4, Before making any changes, read everything available on the subject. If it is a mod, read every last word of the readme, description, discussion thread, everything. If it is an ini change, google it, visit a few reputable sources and determine if it is worth trying. Just because one guy puts up a list of his ini changes and swears buy it does not mean it will work for you, and it might even make things worse. When considering any change, mod, .ini file, setting, whatever, consider it in light of your own system hardware and software and the other mods/changes you intend to make. Investigate any possible conflicts before adding it.5. When you are ready to make any changes (mods, ini settings, anything) attempt only 1 or two at a time. If it's a mod, run BOSS. BOSS is a regular program, not a mod. There is a useful vid for BOSS, here. Set it up to generate the log in .txt format, not html. Read the log and address any messages. In any case, play a bit to test for stability, performance, and compatibility. Make sure to properly place the unrecognized mods as instructed by the mod author, or use TES5Edit or WryeBAsh, or if all else fails, place it with similar mods that are recognized, though that is more trial and error. Also, a number of excellent mods require you use skse. You can find it here. It now has an automatic installer. on that page, you will see there is a link to a readme, which you should read for help understanding the program. There is also another gopher vid to help you set it up, here.6. If you notice any negative effect of your change (not just crashes, but performance loss, glitches, anything), Stop. Do not attempt to keep playing and definitely do not add any new variables into your system. Investigate the possible causes. If it is a mod and you want to try to remove it, then remove it, but be sure to follow the author's removal instructions exactly. To be safe, go back to the save from just before you added it. (This is easy of you are slowly adding mods, but extremely painful if you add everything at once, play a bunch and have no idea where the problem lies. ) This will also help you avoid with script problems from removed mods that will continue and may get worse.7. If you get stuck, post a detailed question before you get frustrated. Detailed means t include your BOSS log, noting how you placed unrecognized mods, other supporting programs you have used (like TES5Edit, skse, Any texture optimizers, enbs, etc.) Also provide your computer specs, any changes to your driver profile and/or skyrim ini files. Finally, provide details about the crash--how long you've had it, what changed before you first noticed it, any patterns like time playing, specific areas or activities like opening a menu or such. Explain what you have already tried to fix the problem and what the results were.8. Once you get your mods and other changes the way you want them, your game is stable and performing well, then stop. Every time you add or change any variable, you are inviting instability. If a new mod shows up and you think you just have to have it, ask yourself if it is worth having to start all over for--because, you may have to. If the answer is yes, then go ahead and try it and if your game crashes, well, you were willing to take the risk. Recommendations for maintaining a trouble free game: 1. I personally suggest avoiding the Steam workshop for mods, because it will automatically update and sometimes even remove mods in your list, which can cause your game to die. Also, playing with Steam in offline mode will prevent unexpected updates from causing havoc. 2. Disable auto updates and avoid using quicksave, as these increase the chance of savegame corruption. Also, if your save does become corrupt, you will need to go back to your last working full save, which can be extremely painful if you rarely make them. You can do this by going into your Prefs.ini text file and then making sure the following lines look like this:[Main]bSaveOnPause=0bSaveOnTravel=0bSaveOnWait=0bSaveOnRest=0 [saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=0.0000 For people who want the convenience of auto save with the functionality of a full save, there are a few mods you might check out, such as Ishara's Normal Numbered AutoSaves Here is Gopher's vid on BOSS and his Beginner's Mod Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highwayman300 Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 That is impossible, it has to be a mod conflict of some sort. I followed the guide (again) step by step and made a completely clean install, and never uninstalled a single mod. The save i am using is entirely new too. And apparently i was using and outdated version of boss, i downloaded the version you linked and no problems were apparent on the new log. And after some research, the papyrus spam was a problem with the better followers mod.However, i do not know why i still have the same errors at the begging, as i have not uninstalled any mods, and some of the mods appearing on the log don't even exist in my skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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