Sharkull Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansIs that a serious question? Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrophy2 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humans Becouse we are afraid my friend, becouse humans are cowards.If we were afriad wed be dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrophy2 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansIs that a serious question? Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.human lives are not disposeable we are humans we are the rulers of nature and nothing can change that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkatu Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansIs that a serious question? Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.human lives are not disposeable we are humans we are the rulers of nature and nothing can change that! We are not the rulers of nature, nature ruls over everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkull Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansIs that a serious question? Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.human lives are not disposeable we are humans we are the rulers of nature and nothing can change that!Yeah... and if a mega asteroid hits the earth (splitting the planet in half)? Or our sun goes supernova? Or a pandemic viral outbreak wipes out humanity? ...:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrophy2 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansIs that a serious question? Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.human lives are not disposeable we are humans we are the rulers of nature and nothing can change that!Yeah... and if a mega asteroid hits the earth (splitting the planet in half)? Or our sun goes supernova? Or a pandemic viral outbreak wipes out humanity? ...:Pif the world ends it proves me right because we did something to end it and if we die we take everything out with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkull Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansIs that a serious question? Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.human lives are not disposeable we are humans we are the rulers of nature and nothing can change that!Yeah... and if a mega asteroid hits the earth (splitting the planet in half)? Or our sun goes supernova? Or a pandemic viral outbreak wipes out humanity? ...:Pif the world ends it proves me right because we did something to end it and if we die we take everything out with usThat makes no sense whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansIs that a serious question? Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.ever hear an animal cry in pain? Human lives are disposable, people are killed in the millions.people understand sometimes why they suffer, animals do not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humansRather than get tied up in all the ethical and philosophical garbage, maybe we should focus on the practical and scientific reasoning behind using animals... The main reason why animals are used is because they are usually cheaper to breed, store, alter, and dispose of, they also have a much shorter breeding and life cycle which can help account for long term exposure. The animal used is often chosen specifically because the chemical or process being experimented with would react similarly with a human as it would that animal. Most mammals, afterall, have relatively similar biological systems and react in similar ways to certain chemical compounds. Where there is not a natural analog, genetic engineering often makes up for discrepancies. Although humans could be used in many of these cases, there are usually more complications, and it is often harder to isolate for specific qualities. Not many people would appreciate being forcibly exposed to a disease so that people can cut them open postmortem to see how that disease has affected their systems. Testing for the treatments of congenital diseases that don't exhibit until later in life would also be rather hard to do with in a human population where less than 1% has that disease, or even experiences significant symptoms. Like Alzheimers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienSlof Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Should we be able to use animals in Pharmaceutical reasearch? No. Not many people would appreciate being forcibly exposed to a disease so that people can cut them open postmortem to see how that disease has affected their systems. Not many animals would either, if they had a say. It's barbaric, cruel and unnecessary in this modern age. With prisons full of ne'er-do-wells sitting around, being kept in relative comfort on taxpayers' money, the very people these felons preyed upon. Is justice just really screwed up, or what? People scream about their rights. What about the rights of those who were injured by these people? But no, we continue to butcher innocent animals in the name of science when technology can provide better ways to do this stuff. The taxpayers are forced to continue paying to feed scum that should no rights at all. None. Messed up much, this human race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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