Prostitution; your thoughts

[loveme4whoiam]

Now, i wish to make a point very, very clear before we begin, just so we can get over the original 'hilarity' of mentioning such a topic on here.

 

Postitution is, as far as i know, illegal in the UK and US (more hazy about the US). I am not asking anyone to name people, take the mick, or use idiot language on here. This is a serious debate, and it will be conducted like one. Now with that out of the way, onto our feature presentation.

 

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I was sitting in my A-Level History class, when my teacher/lecturer said something that made me a) pay attention, and B) made me think. We were studying womens rights in 1900's, and one of the things discussed in Parliament (thats like the Senate in the US guys... i think) was prostitution. The MP's (Senators... or perhaps Govenor's... er, this should probably be in its own thread) were discussing that if they made prostitution illegal, where would their sons go to learn about the birds and the bees?

 

I was surprised at this, to say the least, and i was wondering about your opinions. So, theres the topic boys and girls, with a nice little stimulus fact to get everyone started. Off you go...

[Malchik]

The UK laws about prostitution are all over the place - soliciting is illegal and orgaised prostitution probably but that seems to leave a few loopholes. In any case the laws are largely unenforceable and so ignored. The current suggestion is that brothels should be legalised to prevent the exploitation of girls from Eastern Europe. (The white slave trade as it is called).

 

If a person is old enough and in a situation where there are other lifestyles freely available and they choose to become prostitutes, I see no problem. It is as Shaw called it 'the oldest profession' and if you choose to believe in the story of Jael not entirely taboo in the bible.

 

The problems from my side come from enforced prostitution and economic prostitution - where there is no other reasonable life available.

 

I have heard people say that there is always a choice. This is arrant nonsense. If the alternative is starvation/malnutrition where is the choice? To remove that source of income is equivalent to committing murder surely a more heinous crime?

 

Let us try to find a way to prevent enforced or economic prostitution. Then we will know those who practise it do so because they wish to. I have no problem with that at all.

[ohGr]

hang on a second, not being able to learn about the birds and bees if there were no prostitution, thats crap!, i doubt everyone learns from that, hell, with the school im currently going to, (theres a girls school and boys school), theres a village bicycle that everyones had a ride with, ok, she isnt a prostitute, she just makes alot of friends, which is strangely true, now, i may only be 14, but i know alot more than i did when i was 13, just by taking hints, or every now and then being curious and doing some investigation (no...not pr0n) but having to learn off a prostitute is just bull, no ones that stupid.

but then again, here in australia, adelade i think it is, prostitution was legal last i bothered looking, and that was earlier this year, but the fact that its legal here and illegal overseas, is just plain stupid, it shows how ignorant the government is, by letting loose women spread all sorts of diseases, and not care about the health of the victim paying for the night out, i remember reading a news article that mentioned there was a prostitute at the age of 12, and she got raped many times, and she kept on coming back, just shows how stupid these girls can be.

[eldowan]

I dont think that then and now can be compaired so readily.

One of the reasons for this is the amount of disease going around to day.

Way back when, was there really a large amount of STD's going around?

Syphillis and only a few others correct? A time when pregnancy was about the worst that could happen (aside from being out of wedlock).

[hundinman]

Yes indeed, all good points. Well, I do not support prostitution because God said its wrong but that is my belief, think about it. There are many ways to learn of the birds and bees other than prostitutes.

[Peregrine]

Ugh, please stop making these arguments based on religion. I don't care if God came to you and handed you the rules of life, you have zero right to force your beliefs on anyone else. The fact that you don't like what someone does with their private life is not justification for banning it.

 

 

Way back when, was there really a large amount of STD's going around?

Syphillis and only a few others correct? A time when pregnancy was about the worst that could happen (aside from being out of wedlock).

 

Allowing something is not the same thing as allowing it without restrictions. It would be perfectly acceptable to require a license with mandatory disease testing. STDs wouldn't be an issue.

 

by letting loose women spread all sorts of diseases, and not care about the health of the victim paying for the night out, i remember reading a news article that mentioned there was a prostitute at the age of 12, and she got raped many times, and she kept on coming back, just shows how stupid these girls can be.

 

Actually that's an argument in favor of making it legal. If you do that and require a license with the government enforcing minimum working conditions, a lot of that would disappear. But with it illegal, the government can't do anything, and any victim would have to admit to a crime before they could even try to do something about it.

 

If a person is old enough and in a situation where there are other lifestyles freely available and they choose to become prostitutes, I see no problem.

 

Exactly. What someone decides to do with their life is their business, as long as they are not harming someone else.

[Switch]

Personally, I think prostitution should be legalised, as it's going to continue, laws or no laws. At least if it's legalised you can prevent abuse of children/trade from western Europe and the like. Plus if it's legalised they can put all sorts of restrictions on it anyway, like a law where it's compulsory to use protection (though how they would enforce this, I don't know). It's not going to increase the spreading of disease anyway, as there's as much illegal prostitution as there would be legal methinks.

[Almelexia]

No I dont think prostitution should be legal, yes it cant be stopped at any means but it isnt right that people must do prostitution to survive. And if people do prostitution to survive there should be some works that they will have. I mean what could be more mad than prostitution?

[Akrid]

i may only be 14, but i know alot more than i did when i was 13, just by taking hints, or every now and then being curious and doing some investigation (no...not pr0n)

 

He he he, no kid, it's called porn or pornography.

 

Personally, I think prostitution should be legalised, as it's going to continue, laws or no laws. At least if it's legalised you can prevent abuse of children/trade from western Europe and the like.

 

True, I think many prostitutes would adopt the laws for their own protection and finacial gain, because they could file banging on their tax's. However this would open the flood gates for every johny and billy to run out and bang as many "working" woman as they could, because their would be no consequince(sp?)

Who knows maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing, sexual crimes would probaly drop as sex wouldn't be such a holy grail thing to get. It's would be kind of funny if they legalized it, you UK people would probaly laugh your @ss off seeing a American drink a beer for the first time at 21 and spitting it out, it's kind of like that, it would be chaos. I personaly don't like to use prostitutes, I don't trust them and I feel sex too private a thing to share with a stanger, I'm probaly alone on that one. But if other people want to do it with them, I don't have any problem with it.

[hundinman]

Ugh, please stop making these arguments based on religion. I don't care if God came to you and handed you the rules of life, you have zero right to force your beliefs on anyone else. The fact that you don't like what someone does with their private life is not justification for banning it.

 

 

Way back when, was there really a large amount of STD's going around?

Syphillis and only a few others correct? A time when pregnancy was about the worst that could happen (aside from being out of wedlock).

 

Allowing something is not the same thing as allowing it without restrictions. It would be perfectly acceptable to require a license with mandatory disease testing. STDs wouldn't be an issue.

 

by letting loose women spread all sorts of diseases, and not care about the health of the victim paying for the night out, i remember reading a news article that mentioned there was a prostitute at the age of 12, and she got raped many times, and she kept on coming back, just shows how stupid these girls can be.

 

Actually that's an argument in favor of making it legal. If you do that and require a license with the government enforcing minimum working conditions, a lot of that would disappear. But with it illegal, the government can't do anything, and any victim would have to admit to a crime before they could even try to do something about it.

 

If a person is old enough and in a situation where there are other lifestyles freely available and they choose to become prostitutes, I see no problem.

 

Exactly. What someone decides to do with their life is their business, as long as they are not harming someone else.

Peregrine, I am not forcing my beliefs on any body. I even stated thaty it is my belief, not that it should be anyone elses. And I also simply said think about it. It is not the same as saying "Believe or else" o something like that.