Messing with my body again. I have tff body, or i am supposed to

[Rhiana]

I am on my 3rd or fourth body mod, trying to get the perfect fit. I started with exnems and sickleyield. then I saw the bab's clothes and switched to that. But i didn't like the body as well as i thought i would, and switched to TFF, which was working fine... til i saw a mod that said i could use my tff body AND the babs clothes. So I put that in.

 

When I look at the body mesh in nifscope it is the tff body. When I go into the game, its vanilla body.

 

This is the last thing i added: UFF BAB conversion : http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18212

 

Im running the latest version with all the patches etc. using wrye, OBMM, BOSS, OBSE. I made a bash patch to try and sort out all the different hairs/eyes etc.

 

My load list:

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
02  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
03  Toaster Says Share v3.esm
04  Bab.esm  [Version FINAL]
05  tkHairPack01.esm
06  idkrrr_sarameyesNhairs4originalrace.esm
07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
08  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
09  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0C  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]
0D  Living Economy.esp
0E  Living Economy - Items.esp
0F  Crowded Roads 23.esp
10  DLCHorseArmor.esp
11  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
12  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]
13  DLCOrrery.esp
14  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
15  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]
16  DLCVileLair.esp
17  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]
18  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
19  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
1A  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.11]
1B  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
++  Bab.esp  [Version RC1]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
++  TFF_Races_Base_RSM.esp
1C  Valuable Art.esp  [Version 1.0]
1D  TFF_Armor_Base.esp
1E  TFF_Clothing_Base.esp
1F  TFF_Clothing_SI.esp
20  Slof's Horses Base.esp
21  Slof's Extra Horses.esp
22  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp
23  DLCThievesDen.esp
24  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
25  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
26  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
27  BabShop.esp
28  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
29  Ranokoas City Stealth Exits.esp  [Version 2.2]
2A  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
2B  za_bankmod.esp
2C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
2D  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
2E  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.2]
2F  DLCFrostcrag.esp
30  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
31  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]
32  Knights.esp
33  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]
34  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
35  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
36  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
37  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
38  Quest Award Leveller.esp
++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp
++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp
++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp
++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp
39  StealthOverhaul.esp
3A  RenGuardOverhaul.esp
3B  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
3C  RealisticLeveling.esp
++  EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp
3D  tkHairPack01.esp
3E  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
++  TFF_Races_Base.esp
3F  Beautiful People.esp
40  TSS Custom Companion  Template.esp
41  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
42  RhiannaII.esp
43  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
44  idkrrr_sarameyesNhairs4originalrace.esp
45  idkrrr_sarams_race.esp
46  StokerWolff.esp
47  WaterfrontShop.esp
48  Elienor'sShop.esp
49  ChorrolShop.esp

 

 

The last few esps are mods in process that im tinkering around with, and boss didn't know what to do with the idkrr_sarams stuff and i haven't fixed that yet, but figured it couldn't be affecting my body (right?) and eventually ill re-order those.

 

So of course, the question is, why if i look in my meshes and view my upper and lower body nifs in nifscope, I see the TFF body, but in game I see the vanilla body?

 

I know this post is really long, but I was hoping to give as much info as possible so that I might get an answer instead of just "what are you using" questions in response. =)

 

Thanks,

Rhiana

[Rabbit1251]

I'm sorry that I cannot help you with your problem, Rhiana, but I just wanted to welcome you to the lovely TFF body. I've been using her for some time now and I really like her. I'm especially fond of her hips which are less boy-ish than the other bodies. She is also more healthy looking and less anemic. I am using her with the Babs shop without any trouble in my game. I wish that I had an answer for you. Also you might enjoy the TFF Gypsy Market mod for additional clothing choices. Sorry to have cut in on you and I know that one of our ace trouble shooters will soon be able to help you.

 

 

Yours,

The Rabbit

[LFact]

- Make sure you installed body replacer correctly(well, you said it worked well). And you'll need vanilla clothing/armor mesh replacers if you haven't had them already(Ok, you have them).

 

Unless you messed something when you install such mod, chosen body replacer will work. How about install meshes and textures again and see?

[Rhiana]

I checked the file path from the tff download. I have the body meshes right where it says:

 

meshes/characters/_male/FemaleUpperBody.nif

ditto for the FemaleLowerBody

 

and the textures are right where nifscope points too. with the matching _n.dds files.

 

I just don't understand why the game is pulling in the vanilla body instead of the one in my data file.

 

Confused.

 

Rhiana

[Rhiana]

I know that bumping your question is frowned upon, but I am out of ideas and its been a couple days.

 

The tff body was working before I installed this last mod, I copied the orignal nif over top of the current one to double check that it was right, and it shows up in nifscope, which really confuses me.

 

Any ideas? please.

[Rhiana]

Ok, I deactivated EVERY mod that affects appearance in anyway, copied the tff files back into my data file, looked at the FemaleUpperBody again in nifscope. yep, that is the tff body. Run the game, still vanilla.

 

I really really do not want to have to reinstall oblivion. What is left to try?

 

I am getting very frustrated.

 

Rhiana

 

Edit: ok, looking at OBMM and thinking back, I made the tff into an omod when i installed it. Should i try undoing that? Would the copying over of the body nifs have somehow broken it?

 

Edit 2: getting really really frustrated here: I deactivated the omods. still vanilla. I deleted the omods. still vanilla. i re-copied and re-pasted all the tff files again. still vanilla.

 

and through it all nifscope still shows the nif at data/meshes/characters/_male/FemaleUpperBody as the tff body.

 

i have stripped my game down, and I don't know what is left to try except reinstalling. Someone please help me.

[buddah]

If you are using fomm, toggle archive invalidation off and back on. That may correct your issues.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Buddah

[Rhiana]

Thank you so much for responding.

 

I am assuming FOMM is like OBMM except for fallout. =)

 

I never even knew that was in utilities. I went to the help, read the page, and did what it said... and BOOM

 

my body looks right!

 

A thousand thanks.

 

Rhiana