Fallout 3 gradually became unstable. Please please help!

[volchik696]

Hey everybody,

 

New to the modding game. Awesome stuff. So I have came to the point to where my game became very unstable. After 3 different start overs of game install and mod load orders I got it to work well, played up to Megaton. Now in Megaton after visiting saloon, clinic, water plant, etc. game breaks down.

 

Instead of realis pipboy (mod) that worked at first is a pinkish tinted screen. Escape key stops working. Color changes in bushes and sunlight. Cant start convo's with some npc's. Sometimes characters are red exclamation points. Can't get Lucy West to "get into that bed for me". (she moronically keeps walking into a wall upstairs in the saloon). Pink eyes. And last, exiting Megaton ctd now every time. Tried loading other saves, saving brand new and load from them, killing myself for auto load. Every load everything works fine but within one minute the described problems begin to occur.

 

I also have doubles of Malcolm in Megaton, and K-9 the robot dog. And my sex scenes I think don't render properly. My avatar is not visible in first person view, and is weirdly skinny in boxers in third person view. The women though are loaded correct and well. All they're movements and privates are animated, my avatar has only boxers. I seen images of full animations, want mine to work too :smile:

 

I am running Fallout 3 with all DLC's, official update 1.7, unofficial latest patch, FOSE, FO3EDIT, FO3MASTERUPDATE, and FOMOD (with its invalidation) with merged patch at the bottom of my load order.

 

My PC specs are:

Windows 7 Ultimate Service Pack 1 with Microsoft visual C++ and GFWL (from past games, not acitve)

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

XFX HD-697A-CNFC Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

(1) Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B

Crucial m4 128GB 2.5-Inch (9.5mm) SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive CT128M4SSD2 (game installed on extra internal hdd)

 

And my load order is:

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] FOOK2 - Main.ESM

[X] FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] AlienResurrection Part 1.esm

[X] HeritageIndustriesVault.esm

[X] BelthansQuoVagis.esm

[X] DocLeskosResearch.esm

[X] UFPmaster.esm

[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

[X] Experiment.esm

[X] Grytobia.esm

[X] English.esm

[X] Grytobia Eng.esm

[X] Project Genesis.esm

[X] Arlington_Adventure_03.esm

[X] TheInstitute.esm

[X] FNNCQ.esm

[X] FNNCQ_DavidsLab.esm

[X] COMM.esm

[X] Mothership Crew.esm

[X] Alton, IL.esm

[X] Point Lookout Reborn by Jcro25.esm

[X] VanessaFollower.esm

[X] Megaton Expansion Project V03.esm

[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

[X] CyberneticDawn.esm

[X] Sharing and Caring Companions.esm

[X] EVE.esm

[X] EWE Energy Weapons Enhanced.esm

[X] StreetLights.esm

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

[X] CrossModData.esm

[X] Animy_prostitution.esm

[X] FEM.esm

[X] iHUD.esm

[X] xCALIBR.esm

[X] sc_lovers_resource.esm

[X] sc_wasteland_pimp.esm

[X] sc_saving_nova_dep.esm

[X] FallsChurchMetroFix.esm

[X] Phalanx-PointLookout-Navmesh.esm

[X] SeducingWomen.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] A Devil's Wish.esp

[X] merc_2.esp

[X] AQFH_C_103.esp

[X] AQFH.esp

[X] TranquilityTown.esp

[X] SpaceAdventure.esp

[X] FO3 Better Followers.esp

[X] A Devil's Wish - Patch v1_4.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

[X] FOOK2 - Main.esp

[X] FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp

[X] FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp

[X] FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp

[X] Phalanx-MainFollowerModule.esp

[ ] Phalanx-OPTIONAL-WeaponRepairLists.esp

[X] Phalanx-OPTIONAL-BROKENSTEEL-WeaponRepairLists.esp

[X] Phalanx-OPTIONAL-VendorChanges.esp

[X] Phalanx-OPTIONAL-WeaponChange.esp

[X] Phalanx-DogmeatEnemyTweaks.esp

[X] Phalanx-PerksAndStims.esp

[X] Phalanx-PointLookout-Integration.esp

[X] Phalanx-BrokenSteel-Integration.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

[X] OldWorldSecretsV1.2.esp

[X] SUPER EPIC ADVENTURE PART 1-19138-1-0.esp

[X] Scrapyard.esp

[X] Overpass1.7.esp

[X] UFPawop.esp

[X] UFPlookout.esp

[X] UFPmod.esp

[X] UFPsidequest.esp

[X] UFPthePitt.esp

[X] BelthansMeaKulpa.esp

[X] ReptilianHideout.esp

[X] Gun Runners.esp

[X] spawntest.esp

[X] bethesnot weapon hunt.esp

[X] GuardianOfForever2.esp

[X] aaTriffid.esp

[X] Project Jackson.esp

[X] lamplight secrets quest.esp

[X] Arlington_Adventure_Engl.esp

[X] IdentityCrisis.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Combat.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Medical.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - XP.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - SkillBooks.esp

[X] Devoured in Darkness.esp

[X] BM11Harbinger.esp

[X] FNN01.esp

[X] NotSoFast.esp

[X] FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

[X] HeirApparent.esp

[X] Wasteland Gigolo.esp

[X] tptPayback.esp

[X] TheMissingScientist1_V1.21.esp

[X] sc_saving_nova.esp

[X] We Jazz.esp

[X] UndergroundHideout.esp

[X] AltonAddon.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp

[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp

[X] EWE DLC Addon.esp

[X] EWE Supermutant Energy Weapons.esp

[X] Fellout-Anchorage.esp

[X] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

[X] Fellout-pipboylight.esp

[X] Fellout-PointLookout.esp

[X] Fellout-Zeta.esp

[X] Fellout-Full.esp

[X] StreetLights - Wasteland.esp

[X] megalight.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp

[X] WeatherGroupScriptTest.esp

[X] Flora Overhaul.esp

[X] F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

[X] DYNAVISION - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp

[X] DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

[X] dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

[X] Overhead3PCamera.esp

[X] 2Perks Per Level.esp

[X] FPS Grenade Hotkey.esp

[X] FPS Grenade Hotkey - Zeta addon.esp

[X] CASM.esp

[X] xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp

[X] RagdollOverhaulFo3.esp

[X] Megaton Return.esp

[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp

[X] GNR Enhanced.esp

[X] Radio Active.esp

[X] Existence2.0.esp

[X] OnTheRoadRadio.esp

[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] TiesThatBind.esp

[X] FEM - NILE enabler.esp

[X] FEM - DIMON enabler.esp

[X] FEM - GROWLF enabler.esp

[X] FEM - EXNEM enabler.esp

[X] FEM - BABE enabler.esp

[X] FEM - FANTASY enabler.esp

[X] FEM - MALOS enabler.esp

[X] FEM - NAOUAK enabler.esp

[X] FEM - UF3 enabler.esp

[X] APAddon.esp

[X] Fem_Patch.esp

[X] Playthings.esp

[X] YearlingsGlasses.esp

[X] SeducedDLC03.esp

[X] SeducingWomen_patch_156.esp

[X] Merged Patch.esp

[ ] Phalanx-Uninstall.esp

Any help would be greatly appreciated it. I never tried modding games, and this is like playing a new kind of Fallout. If any more info needed please tell me and I will update. Thanks everybody.

[Purr4me]

I wish I could help you but , unfortunately, your way over modded here ,too many conflicting mods "incompatibles".

Mods I have never seen run at once together....apparently ran here.

 

Mods I have never seen before. + use of the tools but no boss, no load order done as that is incorrect. but a mute point any way.

 

• you have :
  
  [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
  [X] FOOK2 - Main.ESM
• [X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

  [X] BelthansQuoVagis.esm

  [X] DocLeskosResearch.esm

  [X] UFPmaster.esm

  [X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm
  

  [X] Mothership Crew.esm

  [X] Alton, IL.esm

  [X] Point Lookout Reborn by Jcro25.esm

  and the list goes on. no stopping the massive conflicting data, I am good ,I am not that good, your better off using boss for starters, reading up on some guides too.

  might want to at least merge a few of those mods and remove the massive load order problem.

  kitty

[M48A5]

You cannot run FOOK and FWE together. Also, you need to disable the integrated Intel graphics chip.

 

Streetlights-Wasteland is part of Streetlights, disable it and uninstall it. Streetlights.esm needs to load after ThePitt and before BrokenSteel.

 

Your load order is a mess. You need to do more research to correctly install and order mods. You also need to read the mod description pages and the ReadMe that comes with the mods.

 

Follow the guidelines outlined in this post: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/652876-fallout-3-modding-and-you

 

What is FOMOD?

[Billy1969]

Honestly I'm surprised Fallout 3 even starts with that load order, besides the remarks posters did before me you have for example 3 different weather mods in your load order, that is absolutely unecessary as the last loaded mod wins... and it's like that for every mod that change the same things in the whole game.

 

Getting pink and missing textures is a sign your video card is running out of VRAM and your game is about to crash, like save now or in ten seconds it will be too late. FEM while being a good mod is a memory hog, if you absolutely want it then start merging all the body enablers into one esp file, it will save you esp slots and memory, but frankly all that are just bandages on an amputated leg, you're better off to start from scratch and add mods one at a time, and in the correct load order, then make a merged patch at the end of it

Edited May 24, 2014 by Billy1969

[volchik696]

Thanks for the great responses guys.

 

I figured it be my load order. Kinda went overboard when discovered this modding stuff.

 

I forgot to add before that I am using BOSS also. But I am not sure if it is doing anything. It does open a tab in Chrome with a list of plugins active and not. But I don't notice my load order changing in any way. It also gives me an outdated plugin error on the FOOK2 - Main hotfix.esp and DIK.esp. I also meant to say I am using FOMM not FOMOD sorry. Thats how much I been at it haha. Although FOMM tells me it needs to update for BOSS auto sort but update option crashes it. Its version 0.13.21. Also weirdly it crashes on 75% of the time I add a mod, but when I start FOMM again the mod is there and activates and works correctly. A very annoying thing.

 

I did read up on some guides and rules of thumb and a bunch of forums and googled my issues. I did try to consolidate and organize on my third time around. Really don't want to go for a 4th. I would guess it works given my PC build is pretty stable. Had no issues thus far and it handles easy everything I throw at it. It is after all a gaming build. I've tried searching for guides on load orders like what comes first what comes last, but can't find anything concise and straight forward. I basically used common sense for my load order. Did my quests first, then locations, then buildings, then companions, then weapon mods, then graphics and textures, then weather, then radio, then body and sex mods, and UI's and tools last. Of course conforming to guides for each mod installed. Would appreciate any input on this matter.

 

I moved streetlights between The Pitt and Broken Steel like M48A5 said and uninstalled the wasteland one. Also my integrated graphics are disabled. It says RADEON HD6900 graphics in device manager under display adapters. Which is my graphics card. I did follow that guide in the link you sent, minus the GFWL disabler. Doesn't seem to give me any issue. But I could be wrong.

 

Curiously enough, after starting to play and by the time I got to Megaton and tried the sex features, like I described before, was not animating like I saw in posted images, so I stopped the game, and added a couple sex mods like body textures, seducing women and FEM. Remade the merged patch, and did master update. That's when those issues started coming up. And my sex animations were not fixed by those additions I may add. So I quit again, backtracked those new additions, again remade merged patch and did master update and loaded game. My latest save crashed the game. I loaded an earlier save when I got out of vault 101 and everything is fine. Been playing without issues and passed Megaton now. I've tried walking around the wasteland testing the games stability and everything seems to be working okay. I do get an occasional crash but its pretty rare, rare enough to not be bothersome. Still have doubles for the robot dog and the Phallanx guy that fixes companions. All speech options work for both the dog and Phallanx. I for now am going to continue to play and see how it goes. If its unstable, glitchy, and generally unpleasant, I guess I will start over a fourth time installing the game, and drastically shorten my mod list (there's so many I like though). Simultaneously I am going to read up on how to merge mods together.

 

I would also love any input on how to get the R rated animations working properly just like on the images out there from others.

 

This is the update load order thats working now. Minus FEM, seducing women, and a couple other body textures.

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

StreetLights.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

FOOK2 - Main.ESM

FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

AlienResurrection Part 1.esm

HeritageIndustriesVault.esm

BelthansQuoVagis.esm

DocLeskosResearch.esm

UFPmaster.esm

AWorldOfPainFO3.esm

Experiment.esm

Grytobia.esm

English.esm

Grytobia Eng.esm

Project Genesis.esm

Arlington_Adventure_03.esm

TheInstitute.esm

FNNCQ.esm

FNNCQ_DavidsLab.esm

COMM.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

Alton, IL.esm

Point Lookout Reborn by Jcro25.esm

VanessaFollower.esm

Megaton Expansion Project V03.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

CyberneticDawn.esm

Sharing and Caring Companions.esm

EVE.esm

EWE Energy Weapons Enhanced.esm

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

CrossModData.esm

Animy_prostitution.esm

iHUD.esm

xCALIBR.esm

sc_lovers_resource.esm

sc_wasteland_pimp.esm

sc_saving_nova_dep.esm

FallsChurchMetroFix.esm

Phalanx-PointLookout-Navmesh.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

A Devil's Wish.esp

merc_2.esp

AQFH_C_103.esp

AQFH.esp

TranquilityTown.esp

SpaceAdventure.esp

FO3 Better Followers.esp

A Devil's Wish - Patch v1_4.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

FOOK2 - Main.esp

FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp

FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp

FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp

Phalanx-MainFollowerModule.esp

Phalanx-OPTIONAL-BROKENSTEEL-WeaponRepairLists.esp

Phalanx-OPTIONAL-VendorChanges.esp

Phalanx-OPTIONAL-WeaponChange.esp

Phalanx-DogmeatEnemyTweaks.esp

Phalanx-PerksAndStims.esp

Phalanx-PointLookout-Integration.esp

Phalanx-BrokenSteel-Integration.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

OldWorldSecretsV1.2.esp

SUPER EPIC ADVENTURE PART 1-19138-1-0.esp

Scrapyard.esp

Overpass1.7.esp

UFPawop.esp

UFPlookout.esp

UFPmod.esp

UFPsidequest.esp

UFPthePitt.esp

BelthansMeaKulpa.esp

ReptilianHideout.esp

Gun Runners.esp

spawntest.esp

bethesnot weapon hunt.esp

GuardianOfForever2.esp

aaTriffid.esp

Project Jackson.esp

lamplight secrets quest.esp

Arlington_Adventure_Engl.esp

IdentityCrisis.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Combat.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Medical.esp

The Mantis Imperative - XP.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

The Mantis Imperative - SkillBooks.esp

Devoured in Darkness.esp

BM11Harbinger.esp

FNN01.esp

NotSoFast.esp

FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

HeirApparent.esp

Wasteland Gigolo.esp

tptPayback.esp

TheMissingScientist1_V1.21.esp

sc_saving_nova.esp

We Jazz.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

AltonAddon.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp

MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp

EWE DLC Addon.esp

EWE Supermutant Energy Weapons.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-pipboylight.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

megalight.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp

Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp

WeatherGroupScriptTest.esp

Flora Overhaul.esp

F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

DYNAVISION - Dynamic Lens Effect.esp

DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Overhead3PCamera.esp

2Perks Per Level.esp

FPS Grenade Hotkey.esp

FPS Grenade Hotkey - Zeta addon.esp

CASM.esp

xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp

RagdollOverhaulFo3.esp

Megaton Return.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

GNR Enhanced.esp

Radio Active.esp

Existence2.0.esp

OnTheRoadRadio.esp

1PipboyPDA.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

TiesThatBind.esp

Merged Patch.esp

 

I will keep updating on how the game is coming along. Thank you everybody for your support.

[M48A5]

You will continue to have problems and they will get worse if you insist on running FOOK and FWE. They are incompatible and as you continue in the game, the conflicts will continue to build to the point that the game will not work.

 

The FWE is not set up properly. It should be arranged in the same order as the vanilla game with the optional plugins after the DLCs. The same for all your mods that add to the DLCs.

 

I haven't used BOSS in over a year, but when I did, it never opened a tab in by internet browser. Also, the auto sort and check for updated FOMods in FOMM does not work and will cause FOMM to crash.

[blove]

FOOK2 or FWE, but not both. Streetlights, EVE, Phalanx, Fellout, and FPS Grenade Hotkey are all integrated in FOOK2 1.2 Open Beta. Your MMM plugin load order needs to be revised and you are missing compatibility patches for using it with FOOK2.