Oblivion Slowing Down Over Time

[Germandeathkittiez]

I've been trying to run Oblivion lately and it runs out in the wilderness by Lake Rumare at an average of 10 fps, which I thought was kinda slow, and when I summoned my akatosh mount and flew it around the lake, it was lagging extremely and there was barely a second when I wasn't waiting for the cells to load. I knew something was wrong cause it's never run this slow on this comp before; I would usually get a fairly good famerate flying my dragon through the air, and on the ground it would have more things like grass to load but I'd still get a low of about 10 in the past. Now I get a low of 4. I have downloaded several large mods recently, and my disk space is running low (about 20 gigs left), so maybe that has something to do with it.

 

Here's my load order:

 

Oblivion.esm

Skingrad24Vars.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

SewerExpansion.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Brothel of Cyrodiil.esm

Colourwheels Sexy Female NPCs.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

PCSoundSarevok.esp

Storms & Sound.esp

AdventurersAlchemy.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

CLS-Sailboats-COBL.esp

personality_idles2.esp

RAEVWD Cities.esp

RAEVWD Imperial City.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

1AlexScorpionSneakingSuit.esp

AK-47GR2.esp

Assassin_Blade.esp

BlackLuster.esp

Blackrangercuirass.esp

Daggers Improved.esp

HentaiDarkLilith.esp

SentientWeapon.esp

Skooma_Water_Pipe.esp

Slof's Boners! v5.esp

Spears of Cyrodiil.esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

Tona_ShadowWalker_v2.esp

EY_BM_Armory.esp

Queensarmory.esp

ShaiyaOutfit.esp

Blood Elves and Egyptian Armors for Exnems body.esp

Black Courtesan Dress.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp

Slof's Goth Shop.esp

Adaman Fortress.esp

Akaviri Imports.esp

Alexandria.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

FuseFruitMachine.esp

FuseSnailRacing.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp

kikaiNocturnalTorch.esp

bladesfactionmod.esp

MolagBalTreasury.esp

mrSiikas_DwemerTechnology_DwemerSubway.esp

Necromancer Shop.esp

Rise Of A Samurai.esp

SewerExpansion-Cheydinhal.esp

SewerExpansion-Bravil.esp

Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp

CM Solace.esp

Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp

Villages1.1.esp

Village of Lily 2.0.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Knights.esp

TOTF.esp

RTT.esp

RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp

AFK_Weye.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

Valenwood.esp

Moriarcis.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

Bag of Holding.esp

Better Post Faction Rewards.esp

Better Skooma.esp

Birthsigns Expanded.esp

Birthsign Zero.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Bank.esp

Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp

Ring of console.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp

bondage_sex.esp

Eroblivion.esp

Guard Sex.esp

SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp

RealisticForceHigh.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

hilarity_121.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_DLCSpellTome.esp

SM_OOO.esp

SM_COBL.esp

SM_AbsorbRestoration.esp

SM_EnableCharmChameleon.esp

SM_EnableRestoreEnchanting.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_VanillaSpells.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

MidasSpells.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

cancelattack.esp

Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

LRM_Generic.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

DemonRace.esp

Beautiful People.esp

Riddick Saber Claws.esp

Altair_Race.esp

Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp

Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Heavy Armor.esp

AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

sexycompanion.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Cobl Races TNR.esp

Cobl Races TNR SI.esp

Cobl Races - Balanced.esp

TheOubliette.esp

Forward Motion Blur.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting Deadly Reflex Compatible.esp

Reaper_Tree_Home.esp

MrPwners Skooma.esp

Aberwiin Manor.esp

RedcourtCastle v1_25.esp

ahtata Ork.esp

AK-47 Grenadier.esp

ASMagic+Mercantile.esp

ASMercantile.esp

Ilztafein.esp

SI-ArchmagesChestIngredients.esp

DBAssassin.esp

MTC EagleEyesSpell 1.1[ENG].esp

1662-1.21-Inebriation + Skooma addon-TESSource.esp

Dalls_Merchant.esp

Atlantean.esp

Cragmorton.esp

DB_NightMotherMoneyRangeA.esp

Darkness Unleashed - Blood Magick.esp

Darkness Unleashed - Bone Magick.esp

Darkness Unleashed - Master.esp

Darkness Unleashed.esp

Felmoon's Dusk v.1.2.esp

Imperial Treehouse.esp

Reaper's Evil Lair.esp

OblivionSkoomaAddiction1.0.esp

Skooma Den Revamped.esp

Skooma Lab.esp

Skooma Lab - 1.1.esp

springfield.esp

anvil air lane.esp

Campus Village.esp

Elven Encampment BETA.esp

Cannibalism.esp

seph dual wield.esp

mn_Revival.esp

PalaceLotospire01.esp

KeeffeCastle01.esp

SST - Eagle's Reach.esp

Bloodknightarmor.esp

VG0ShepherdRing.esp

DarkRoseSet.esp

Celestiel - EV.esp

BWisteria.esp

Hammerfellbeachhouse.esp

Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp

Ahtata Arquamer spike4hair.esp

Regions - Hammerfell.esp

CM Illona.esp

CMTorys.esp

Orichalcum Dagger.esp

Orichalcum Mace.esp

ElysiumTC01.esp

cloudcity mod V1.1.esp

Thornscape_Castle01.esp

The Death Note.esp

Updatedeathnote.esp

HellspawnBlades.esp

X-Mass.esp

 

I BOSS'd it recently, but I still don't have Wrye Bash, I'll get that too when I get to it.

Thanks for whatever help you can give.

[TotallyNotToastyFresh]

Holy crap broseph, there's more mods there than I have ever installed :P

[Illiad86]

wow lol, is that over the limit there? Looks pretty close...remember you can only have 255 (.esps that is) mods I think it is, that's all the engine can handle.

 

Have you defragged lately?

 

Low disk space can contribute to slower performance, but I've only seen it when I used to fill my 20GB up until I had 100MB left on it haha

[Jenrai]

Holy gargantuan load-lists, batman!

 

Question 1; Changed any hardware or drivers on the machine lately?

Question 2; Tried a new/different save? This could be an easly indicator of save corruption/bloating.

No to the first one and yes to the second? Right... fun bit;

 

First the good news - unless the drive is borked thats not responsible for the slowdown. 20gb is more than enough space to run pretty much any game. However, run scandisk and defrag it as Illiad said if you haven't lately. My guess is its a large drive and ideally it should be defragged & scanned every month or so if you've got a lot on there. More if you do a lot of downloading/installing various things.

 

Secondly, get a decent registry cleaner. Ccleaner is a damn good one with regular updates, very little clutter, and its free. For the same reason as above. Everything you download and install to a computer leaves traces in the registry, and in some (read- almost all) cases, windows itself doesn't remove these entries or clean its registry effectively. Cluttered/broken registry is the no. 1 reason for comp slow-down. Just because its not affecting everything yet doesn't mean thats not the issue. High demand programs like Oblivion will be the first to show signs of slowing up.

 

Thirdly, these large mods you've installed; If none of the above helps, or you've already done it recently (IE since you're last major download/windows update/installation spree) then try disabling them, one at time. With a mod list like that, its pretty much taken as read you are going to have issues, just some won't always be quite so severe... half of them you probably wouldn't even notice during a regular playthrough.

 

Bravo though... :) Thats probably the longest load order I've ever seen... definately the longest without FCOM - I'm impressed you've got it running at all. lol.

 

Jenrai

[Germandeathkittiez]

I am too. That's why my initial plan is not to deactivate them. However, I think I dl'd the Polish version of Brothels of Cyrodiil, due to some file confusion... all that work for nothing, alas. To add to this I've been using a lot of texture mods in my last spree, which change the roads and wilderness, these won't be on that mod list cause they're texture mods; they might also be adding to this issue. It could also have to do with RAEVWD, which if it's even working could be a framerate chopper. The word Defrag seems intimidating to me, not sure how to do it though, or what it is. I thought that was risky last time I heard of it; maybe I'm wrong. I have Ccleaner; haven't used it though. Finally, it overall could be no different, but just seem different because sometimes you just have to play it longer and it starts to run better. As far as hardware, no, and I'm using a save on a character I've been using for a while. And 255? Really, I thought it was something like 655 or something. I hope I'm not coming close to the limit. o_O

[bben46]

Don't worry, too many mods will not cause a slow down. They will cause a crash to let you know you have gone over the limit. However, there is also another limit that few people run into, and that is the total number in the data folder, whether active or not. That number is around 400. I'm not sure what happens at that point, but I suspect it will crash on load.

 

To avoid this limit, move any unused mods out of the Oblivion folder altogether.

[Jenrai]

Defragging isn't dangerous, and it will help with some issues, though not all. And its really easy to do because windows does it for you, and it will usually free up space you don't even know you have. I have it scheduled along with a load of other things so I don't even have to look at it, but if I remember correctly, the path on Xp is something along the lines of start>applications>system tools>disk defrag.

 

Personally, I would defrag it (though if its a huge drive be prepared for that to take a while) reboot it, run Ccleaner, reboot it again and then check to see if you have any notable performance boost.

 

Also, just so you know, unless you have the ability to make a relocation patch yourself, Brothel of Cyrodil will be pretty much useless to you unless you bin afk weye, RTT and one or two others. It conflicts with anything and everything that alters Weye and the surrounding region and as far as I know there are no patches available for it.

 

Jenrai

[XJDHDR]

I think RAEVWD would be the main cause of your problems. If you run RAEVWD with landscape replacer mods, you are almost guaranteed to cause poor performance on even the best hardware available ATM. I suggest you remove either RAEVWD (except the base meshes, those will improve performance) or the landscape texture replacers and see if there is an improvement.

 

You could also look at the website in my signature to see if any of the mods or methods listed there can help you.

[Germandeathkittiez]

Thanks. I already did remove RAEVWD and I ran Ccleaner and tested it and I got a good performance boost... it may even be running like it used to, but I'd still like it to run better. I've got an average of 13 fps on the ground and in the sky it's like high of 10 low of 5. My main problem is in the sky I'm sick of waiting for it to load the area all the time... it just destroys the fun. I'll check that list; are there any mods that improve the performance of cell changes and all that?

[XJDHDR]

The only way you are going to reduce loading times is by reducing the amount of time it takes the game to load your meshes and textures. The most obvious improvement in that regard would be a faster hard drive. Defragmenting would be another way.

 

After that, you can try reducing the size of the files the game has to load (PyFFI and uninstalling large mesh and texture replacers would help). Then the final way is to extract the contents of your BSAs then repack them as an uncompressed BSA using OBMM.

 

Of that list, I know the crash prevention mod by Windom increases loading times. Otherwise, I think the only other mod which would affect loading would be the UOPs since they use PyFFIed meshes, which are smaller and perform better.