Proof of Multiplayer

[bben46]

Get your priorities in order. For most people that means getting a job takes precedence over modding a game. So don't spend time that could be used in the job search and preparation for interviews etc playing. Once you have your future secured you will have plenty of time to work on your hobby.

 

What kind of work are you looking for? Just in general, we don't allow resumes here. (There are plenty of job search sites that do though) But maybe there is someone who can help with suggestions or direction.

[Skree000]

we're hiring, http://www.digitalextremes.com/ click Careers in the bottom left. Cant hurt to try!

a few of my co-workers also started off as modders before they landed a game job

note that i cant influence any decision much , would depend solely on applicants skills and personality

[LithianLord]

So what is the status?

 

All I see are a bunch of broken links, a extremely short video showing overlaying chat and a model (player I take it) that "jumps" around. While I find this extremely impressive if you did all of that by yourself, I find it hard to see such impressive results dwindle away. I don't want to see another Oblivion MP situation. As one member said before, I would love even just a static object sync or such where we could leave items or messages. Something of the sort at least. I have a rational outlook on this and find it odd that an entire community of modders (and to my knowledge the largest and greatest compilation of fallout modders) can't see this idea and work together on it.

 

If this is possible, what else could be? Not necessarily full multiplayer, but the applications could expand outside of the vast number of reskins and item creating that plagues modding. Don't get me wrong, I love them....but I find the lack of innovation sad.

 

Take Puce Moose for example: He creates not only new content, but strings them together in new ways and impressive quests. If you indeed have created a script/program that allows for syncing in real time (no matter how laggy) could we not find a use for this even if full multiplayer never comes to be? (See Oblivion MP)

 

Otherwise what you are doing is something that should be admirer and not shunned. Do it for yourself in the end. People are always skeptical and what have you. I myself would like more proof before I believe (SEE OBLIVION MP) but my point is to simply think outside of the box. And hopefully the rest of the members will be with me in supporting you for doing something different.

[ecksile]

Otherwise what you are doing is something that should be admirer and not shunned. Do it for yourself in the end. People are always skeptical and what have you. I myself would like more proof before I believe (SEE OBLIVION MP) but my point is to simply think outside of the box. And hopefully the rest of the members will be with me in supporting you for doing something different.

 

Respect. :thumbsup:

[Yossarian22]

Otherwise what you are doing is something that should be admirer and not shunned.

 

I belive this whole thing is a bit of a misunderstanding. Nobody ever want's to take him down. Only telling, that it is maybe not worth spending so much lifetime on something, that is really hard to realize and will never be admitted enough compared to the work it requires. So to speak, it's just not economic for him to do it. Following his words, he already feel kinda responsibility for this thing and give it priority, while he better should look for a job. Same speech like 5 pages ago, well, still I guess it's a waste of words... :unsure:

[phoneyLogic]

Uhm, no one here in the whole thread was discrediting the modders efford. I suffer the whole "and you all don't want to belive it" thing since it came up. I don't know what's going on in this regards. On the one hand there is a wish of many player who wants to see a multiplayer in the game. On the other hand we have an engine which is just not designed for multi player. But if someone will finally will get it playable, then he deserve all the fame and honour making sth really amazing.

 

But atm we don't have anything but announcements. I know that there are projects which are really founded and innovative, such as FALLOUT 2250 - Lost Roads by Yossarian22. Making such mods is really hard and time consuming work. So despite of liking the idea of a multi player or not, we seems to have a kind of an Oblivion like multi player situation atm. Maybe we'll see that later, maybe not. Though this is far beyond my modding knowledge, I seriously doubt that the MP will be ever working in the entire worldspace. Again, this is just my opinion, please proof me wrong, there is no need to blame the community here, since most of us would probably instantly help if the MP would really work. Keep this in mind, noone wants to take the modder down. Read the whole thread if you want. There is a little dicussion about some modding basics... but hey, basics are the key to success.

[Scatterspell]

This whole thing may just be moot. If Bethsoft is smart (of course there is no proof they are unfortunately) they'll get the new Gamebyro code which has networking code already hard coded in.

[ecksile]

Well this is for the time it takes them to code a new fallout using that new gamebryo and releasing it to the general public. :teehee:

[Skree000]

While I find this extremely impressive if you did all of that by yourself,

 

 

It amazes me that people still think the OP is conjuring all of this up as some kind of prank or blowing smoke up everyones ass...

 

Ive sat there and discussed in depth with him on numerous occasions as he worked out some of the greater challenges of such a prospect, what elements of the engine can be replicated over a network, which ones HAVE to be, how this can be done with the tools we have...

 

i Assure you 110% everything youve seen from this guy is his own work and is genuine, but dont take my word for it...

 

Just because 99% of people cant figure out a problem doesnt mean that last 1% are phonies, maybe they just attack the problem with a different approach.

 

 

Kinda like how if one were to take a modern automobile back in medieval days they would doubt them and suspect them of witchcraft and deceptions instead of taking the time to consider avenues that may be less travelled. (ie. scientific/technological innovation)

okay so i suck at metaphors, but the point is that there are gifted people out there in the world, blessed with the ability to think outside the box. The OP is one of those people.

[LithianLord]

Otherwise what you are doing is something that should be admirer and not shunned. Do it for yourself in the end. People are always skeptical and what have you. I myself would like more proof before I believe (SEE OBLIVION MP) but my point is to simply think outside of the box. And hopefully the rest of the members will be with me in supporting you for doing something different.

 

Respect. :thumbsup:

 

Thanks mate.

 

 

Otherwise what you are doing is something that should be admirer and not shunned.

 

I belive this whole thing is a bit of a misunderstanding. Nobody ever want's to take him down. Only telling, that it is maybe not worth spending so much lifetime on something, that is really hard to realize and will never be admitted enough compared to the work it requires. So to speak, it's just not economic for him to do it. Following his words, he already feel kinda responsibility for this thing and give it priority, while he better should look for a job. Same speech like 5 pages ago, well, still I guess it's a waste of words... :unsure:

 

Just throwing my 2 cents out there. I should have not used the word "shunned" as that does seem harsh, but I was just trying to get across that people should not jump up and go "No real proof" or "You couldn't have done this" when there would be no real reason. I find it harsh to nay-say such in this sort of situation. I agree that I am bassically restating many aspects of this thread, but I just wanted to mostly support the OP while giving my suggest to not go overboard in his dream right off the bat, but instead set realistic goals.

 

...basics are the key to success.

 

QFT

 

While I find this extremely impressive if you did all of that by yourself,

 

 

It amazes me that people still think the OP is conjuring all of this up as some kind of prank or blowing smoke up everyones ass...

 

Ive sat there and discussed in depth with him on numerous occasions as he worked out some of the greater challenges of such a prospect, what elements of the engine can be replicated over a network, which ones HAVE to be, how this can be done with the tools we have...

 

i Assure you 110% everything youve seen from this guy is his own work and is genuine, but dont take my word for it...

 

Just because 99% of people cant figure out a problem doesnt mean that last 1% are phonies, maybe they just attack the problem with a different approach.

 

 

Kinda like how if one were to take a modern automobile back in medieval days they would doubt them and suspect them of witchcraft and deceptions instead of taking the time to consider avenues that may be less travelled. (ie. scientific/technological innovation)

okay so i suck at metaphors, but the point is that there are gifted people out there in the world, blessed with the ability to think outside the box. The OP is one of those people.

 

Yes I agree, but at the same point I can see their side. Here we are in a thread, with someone saying without a team he has implimented a rough version of MP including chat functions with much proof but a few broken links and one short video. I suggest that he take some screen shots or a few more videos on a solid youtube channel or site.

 

And as you and i have said, this guy is gifted with the out-of-the-box thinking. He proposes a lot, but damn if he hasn't shown what one man can do with a dream.

 

Here I am using the GECK, and I still can't get it to play my wav files. This guy comes along and goes "Hey guys, invented a rough form of MP for fun. Oh and now I added chat to it. Yeah so I plan to get a job and then finish this. You know, whatever. I got this."