JackTrenton Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I know it would be pretty hard to do with the Brotherhood opposing their power grab, but these are the only pure human factions in the wasteland and the place is being overrun by ghouls and super mutants. I'm thinking of a enemy of my enemy kind of thing, they could have had it out after the mutants were gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbinator Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Play fallout 2. Broaden your definition of "mutant". Any humans living in the wasteland have been subtly mutated (some more than others: see ghouls) and are not "pure" humans. the enclave originally tried to kill everyone on earth via a modified strain of the FEV virus while they stayed cooped up in their base. obviously, the brotherhood has been active and recruits from the natives and is probably mutated. furthermore, they probably wouldn't agree with killing everyone in the world. and president eden, who takes over, is a crazy robot. soooooooooo yeah. I recommend going to the fallout wiki if you don't know the lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTrenton Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 I'd think killing off the super mutants would take priority though. The way they talk the Brotherhood is on the verge of being overwhelmed by them, the Enclave is bad but they atleast they aren't trying to kill and cannibalize everyone they come across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEArbiter Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 the Enclave is bad but they atleast they aren't trying to kill and cannibalize everyone they come across.Not for now, but their objective is to purify the wasteland, they don't want to cooperate with "mutans" in order to kill the V87 Super Mutans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpfbork Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I usually think of the wastelands as some kind of school yard with the brotherhood and the enclave as the two biggest bullys around. They are both arrogant and vicious against everyone who is not with them or can´t be used and the only difference between them might be their reasons. And like every bully they want to be the top dog and just can not bear anyone equal beside them. The idea of working together naturally will not even cross their mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilneko Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Because their goals are incompatible. The Brotherhood's goal is not to wipe out the super mutants at all. That's just Elder Lyons talking. Go talk to some Outcasts. The Enclave's goal is essentially to wipe out, or at a minimum subdue, everyone who is not Enclave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTrenton Posted March 1, 2010 Author Share Posted March 1, 2010 The Enclave never attacked the Brotherhood though, I don't think they wanted to fight them. Why wouldn't they have vaporized the Citadel with the orbital strike? Or tried to attack it before they got Liberty Prime working? They were basically nuetral until they got the GECK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbinator Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 uh jack. play fallout 2 or read the wiki. the enclave destroyed at least one branch of the brotherhood (sanfran) and I kind of get the impression that the rest weren't wiped out because they were in hiding. They haven't made big great fortresses like the citadel until much later, which is when fo3 takes place. furthermore, the only reason they need a great big fortress is because they're openly fighting the supermutants. the original BoS don't care about the supermutants and with their technology, could easily make their base unseen so as to avoid them entirely. plus why would the enclave have access to orbital weaponry? Their main base, the oilrig, was destroyed, meaning they probably lost a LOT of power around the world with that (it was their base of operations for pretty much everything.) The reason they haven't attacked it openly? I don't know. Crazy robot president, internal politics, the fact that the BoS is still pretty damn strong even with inferior technology and has local support? Furthermore, I'm pretty sure that the Outcasts would band together with the BoS if they thought the citadel was actually going to be destroyed. As much as they disagree with Elder Lyons, to the point of separation, they wouldn't want them to die, either. If only for the fact that there is still a lot of tech at the Citadel that they do NOT want the enclave to get their hands on. Why should the enclave risk reconciling the two groups when it can slowly wear them both down? Not sure they know about liberty prime, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilneko Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Burbinator, the orbital strike thing is a reference to Broken Steel. And hell, Elder Lyons in Fallout 3 even alludes to past hostilities between the Brotherhood and Enclave. Still though, my point stands: the Enclave's objective is to kill everything that is not them, this includes all branches of the Brotherhood. If they were not openly attacking the DC Brotherhood before, they would eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbinator Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 oh. I haven't actually beat broken steel since i started a new character after beating the vanilla MQ. also, overhaul mods. stupid bethesda and their nonsensical story lines *grumble*. my other points are still valid though. also, I imagine that if they used orbital weaponry, perhaps the rest of the brotherhood would respond with deadly force (remember enclave = recovering from the destruction of the oilrig, while brotherhood seems to be a larger and more pervasive army. I dunno though). Drastic measures will be returned with drastic countermeasures that the enclave might not be able to survive (I imagine an orbital blast would be very detectable even if regular communicatoin with the other brotherhood chapters has been lost). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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