What would a Chinese Operative think of the Brotherhood?

[Alixen]

I just made a new character, an Ancestor of a Crimson Dragoon who infiltrated a Vault (explaining the Pip-boy) and proceeded to pass down his training til we eventually reach my character. By this point the family Stealth Suit and family blade are gone (eventually to be replaced with the OA rewards) and allt he character will start with is a Chinese Commando outfit and whatever the Alternate Start mod gives a Chinese Operative.

 

Her goals are to eventually destroy what remains of the U.S. goverment as is her families mission. That means the Enclave are number one of her list of targets...but that made me think, what of Lyon's segment of the Brotherhood of Steel?

 

Obviously I'll have to 'infiltrate them' as a Spy to make the majority of the main storyline work (ignoring any mention of being related to James) but that works fine for a Chinese operative. My problem is... to what end? Would she hate them for being the remnant of the U.S. military? For trying to rebuild the country in some way?

 

I'm already anticipating chhosing the Citadel as a target for the strike. Working with them and then given the oppertunity to take out both American splinter groups? Too tempting to pass up. I'm just thinking of the fallout this will leave. By this point Sarah will be a sister-in-arms in a way, spy or not. And Paladin Cross and any other 'american' followers who are witnesses will ahve to be silenced as well.

 

I don't know. I'm going to be roleplaying a loyal Chinese spy who thinks the homeland still stands and the mission is still ongoing; but I still want her to be human rather than an evil creature of malice.

 

I'm having problems balancing loyalty to the mission and personal feelings as far as roleplay goes. But then, I imagine real spies have that exact same problem if they are deep enough undercover.

 

In the end I suppose I don't want to be stood int he ruins of the Citadel and realise my character has no more goals and that she has killed everyone she knows in the wasteland. That would end the RP on a bitter note.

 

But then... I suppose thats what makes it an interesting concept to Roleplay, and one that could keep me interested in the character beyond a few hours. She ahd a long term goal and is very different to anything i've roleplayed before. If I knew all the answers from the start I suppose that would suck half the fun out of it.

[csgators]

I hate to rain on your parade but I just think being a political operative for a dead country against a dead country is a bit pointless. If I actually was the character in question I would try to go back to China and see if a government exists and if so if they want me to go back to America a kill random people because the country that it was 200 years ago was bad. If they did I would seriously question my loyalties.

[Alixen]

I hate to rain on your parade but I just think being a political operative for a dead country against a dead country is a bit pointless. If I actually was the character in question I would try to go back to China and see if a government exists and if so if they want me to go back to America a kill random people because the country that it was 200 years ago was bad. If they did I would seriously question my loyalties.

 

Haha, thats just you though. The fact of the matter is indoctrination is a scary thing. Looking at thsode Ghoul's at the Food factory.^^

 

Not to mention that many of the wastelanders 200 years after the war seem to see the old world in a different light to us, and this character comes from a long line of family that honor is everything, and they 'still have a mission to acomplish.' They have no idea that China has fallen too; and they have no way to.

 

You didn't rain on my parade, no worries, because you don't understand the character archtype i'm making.

 

You didn't even really address the point of the topic; what would Chinese fragment-groups think og the Brotherhood.

[csgators]

The fact of the matter is indoctrination is a scary thing.

 

You are quite right. Point taken.

 

You didn't rain on my parade, no worries,

 

Good, I didn't want to sound like a %&$! or anything, just giving you my take if it were me, but I see where you are coming from a little better now I think.

 

You didn't even really address the point of the topic; what would Chinese fragment-groups think og the Brotherhood.

 

If the mission was to bring down the US Gov. as you say the Enclave is a given for the simple fact that they claim to be so. The Brotherhood does not function as a government and doesn't attempt to control the populace I would think they would not be a target. The Republic of Dave would be though I think and possibly the Commonwealth.

[Tertisentar]

Exploitable, at least, but pursuing goals unrelated to the people's republic, hmmm. I'd say that the threat level to the people's republic will have to be determined further on in the story, so that way you can start playing already :P

[Alixen]

The fact of the matter is indoctrination is a scary thing.

 

You are quite right. Point taken.

 

You didn't rain on my parade, no worries,

 

Good, I didn't want to sound like a %&$! or anything, just giving you my take if it were me, but I see where you are coming from a little better now I think.

 

You didn't even really address the point of the topic; what would Chinese fragment-groups think og the Brotherhood.

 

If the mission was to bring down the US Gov. as you say the Enclave is a given for the simple fact that they claim to be so. The Brotherhood does not function as a government and doesn't attempt to control the populace I would think they would not be a target. The Republic of Dave would be though I think and possibly the Commonwealth.

 

Thanks, nice to hear some thoughts.

 

The Republic of Dave is too laughable to be a target, being honest. And alas, the Commonwealth is too far off sadly, so that will have to be in the characters future, beyond my personal part in her tale.

 

What makes me think on the Brotherhood is that Lyon's branch is very much into defending the wastelanders, and they are a significant force that could become even stronger when they are eventually forced to take on yoour everyday wastelander as troops. Given their roots in the US military and the potential for growth if the Brotherhood ends up the dominant power in the Capitol Wasteland they could very easily end up a goverment body of their own eventually.

 

Hmmm...

 

 

Exploitable, at least, but pursuing goals unrelated to the people's republic, hmmm. I'd say that the threat level to the people's republic will have to be determined further on in the story, so that way you can start playing already :P

 

Exploiting them is on the list; but all that will come after getting the Anchorage items and my GOTY is still a day or two from arriving. Right now i'm playing a Mod-filled vanilla Fallout. I didn't see the point since I have all the addons for my 360, but the low price of the GOTY has finally made me cave in, and the fact i'm really missing Broken Steel and Point Lookout. That, and the Stealth Suit and Shock Sword are somehwat important for this RP. :P

 

I've already started the character. She is currently pretty disgruntled after running into a group of ghouls and using up all her ammo. She's down to her sword for the moment. I think i'm going to deal with Tennypenny tower first, so I can avoid the eastern area of the Capital Wasteland. Should give my GOTY time to arrive.

[Malikin]

Really, I see your character spending a tremendous amount of time cleaning out the Enclave. Not only that, but ensuring that a central government will not form is both easy and hard. Easy in that if you can keep the settlements isolated, no central government. Hard in that it is a lot of running around for one gal.

 

My character goes on the basis that Catherine (aka Mom) was of possible chinese descent. My character, though, is more likely to Form a central government, than try to destroy it. In a way, not directly, along the same path as your gal.

 

~Mal

[Tertisentar]

I hope at least one of those mods disables the CSS's stealth field, otherwise the game won't be nearly as fun :/

 

I'd say that the character should be careful to avoid consolidating the BoS's power wherever possible, but should realise that the faction is better kept as a friend than a foe, for now...

[Alixen]

Haha, no, the CSS remains as it is. That Stealth is all that will be keeping her alive quite often

 

With Real Gun Damage and the low DR on the CSS if my character gets noticed while systamatically clearing even a Raider camp it's pretty much certain death.

 

It's pretty damn fun; and if I remember right from my 360 playthrough's you do still occasioanlly get noticed with Stealth and the CSS. Never the less it's RP. It's more for an interestign story than challenge in combat.

 

Yeah, people seem to be thinking along the same lines as i'd thought. I suppose it's common sense. I gues sit all comes down to... do I press the big red button when I get the chance or not. :P

[roguim]

As the BoS is a remain of the Army you char should be against it and try to destroy it, and what beyond the Enclave and BoS ,there is other issues to your Spy, concerning the Purifier, a real spy in theses ambiance would put the FEV virus and also destroy Megaton and Tempenny Tower (lets the Ghouls in as Tempenny is a prime example of a capitalist men) .

Remember that the remnants in mama Dulce is only hostile towards the player because he is American so a indoctrinate char should act in a similar way. seeing any person as enemie (the only exception would be Chen in Tempenny tower)

 

And as there isn't any central government you char should destroy/disrupt any faction /city that could grown to be a central power ( like Megaton or Rivet City).

 

And yes i use a little of the old stereotype of the "red menage" of the 50's but remember its part of the Game ( see the Mister Gutsy speech), not real World.