Challenge an NPC to a Fight

[PasserThru]

I'm somewhat new to the oblivion scene, but I've absolutely been loving all the mods that very talented people have contributed. Looking around I've found a few gaps in the total mod coverage I'd like to see addressed. I'm a modder myself, but I'm still too early in the learning to make some simple things( I think) that can improve still more of Oblivion.

 

 

CHALLENGE AN NPC TO A FIGHT

 

(BTW, I searched for a mod like this first and couldn't find one)

 

A simple concept that can be even more fun the more detail you want to add, People fighting online

might like this too in a CHALLENGE OTHER PLAYER version.

 

 

CHALLENGE(Normal/Standard):

 

You walk up to another character, say a knight, in the city, initiate conversation like usual,

and an option appears in the subject list that says for example "challenge to a duel." (*)

When you choose to challenge them (set an optional wager) and they agree, the conversation

immediately ends, you both jump back away from each other, and the fight begins.

The fight is over when there is a winner* and since you both agreed to the fight making it a legal

duel, there is no bounty for murder on the winner nor is there an increase in infamy.

 

*FRIENDLY MATCH:

the Loser doesn't die, and is instead just rendered unconscious like the game does for certain characters.

 

*DEATH MATCH:

the fight is to the death, and to the winner goes the spoils

 

OPTIONAL WAGER/BET:

I think it would be great if you could fight for anything in yours and/or your opponent's posession.

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FORMAL CHALLENGE:

This is likely a dramatic leap in difficulty to make, but would prove a modder's devotion to this individual mod.

Formal challenge would increase the grand-standingness of the fight by making it a scheduled event,

Imagine scheduling your fight to take place in another city, 3 days later for a serious amount of cash.

 

It could work exactly the same as a standard Challenge except the following

 

At the same time, you would set the "Optional Bet/Wager" with your opponent, you could also add selections to set an "Optional Date/Time and then an Optional Place."

 

OPTIONAL DATE/TIME:

Schedule the fight to take place "NOW" by default or set a "TIME OF DAY" and then "TODAY" by default or "TOMORROW or NEXT [insert day of week]"

Post-poning the fight at all requires an additional OPTIONAL PLACE. When the fight is post-poned, if either opponent fails to show at appointed time and place, they automatically lose and forfeit any Bet/Wager. IF neither show (unlikely for NPCs unless deliberately delayed LOL by the player) then the fight is called off.

 

OPTIONAL PLACE:

IF the "OPTIONAL DATE/TIME" is not "NOW" and "TODAY" then an "OPTIONAL PLACE" for the, then post-poned, fight to take place at MUST be chosen or be defaulted to "HERE," the current location. When the fight is post-poned, if either opponent fails to show at appointed time and place, they automatically lose and forfeit any Bet/Wager. IF neither show (unlikely for NPCs unless deliberately delayed LOL by the player) then the fight is called off.

 

I have ideas for at least 2 more challenge types and options

 

I really think this could be a good start for an awesome mod, I hope I get atleast one taker.

 

Serious Modder(s) if you don't want to get involved in this thread contact me by Personal Message and we'll exchange emails or chat.

[Dracula420]

i like this idea too. i get sick of martin looking down his nose at me lording his emperor-ness over me. DOWN GOES THE GUANTLET MARTIN!!!

[kieranfoy]

i like this idea too. i get sick of martin looking down his nose at me lording his emperor-ness over me. DOWN GOES THE GUANTLET MARTIN!!!

When does Martin ever get snotty? As I recall, he's nothing but grateful, and humble towards you.

[PasserThru]

Actually, I thought people would be more interested in fighting Captains of the Guard in the cities's, snotty nobles like the Count's son of Bravil, or that annoying guy that threatens you when you run into him at the lonely suitors.

 

There's plenty of people in the game that are expendable, mock your character, and the storyline won't miss them. :smile:

 

I knew there would be certain characters that would have to turn down the "fight to the death" option to avoid breaking the game, but there's no reason they can't indulge in a friendly contest.

[Slawter500]

Maybe drop a gauntlet which has an small AOE frenzy. That would be a simple way to do it.

 

EDIT: I only just saw that you want this done through a conversation topic.

 

This is easily achieved. Simply have something that means the dialogue option to change to "Hostility 100" or something along those lines. Actually I think it might be agression.

[MithranArkanere]

Good idea.

 

You could even make an challenge for the arena, under either normal arena rules (the gear and stuff) or the advanced rules.

"See you tomorrow at noon, in the Arena".

And the options to fight could depend on disposition. A friendly NPC would only like to spar. An NPC that hates you would love to put your head on a pike.

[Dracula420]

i like this idea too. i get sick of martin looking down his nose at me lording his emperor-ness over me. DOWN GOES THE GUANTLET MARTIN!!!

When does Martin ever get snotty? As I recall, he's nothing but grateful, and humble towards you.

EXACTLY. hes always so nice that he has to be secretly plotting my demise. :yes:

[Pineapplerum]

Okay, I'm going to call out Dracula with this mod then because he's picking on Martin. :unsure: I wuv Martin, leave him alone. **SPOILER** In my game he's already dead though and I'm really bummed about that. I wish it didn't have to happen that way. :ermm: Me cries.

[PasserThru]

Slawter500

Yeah I think it would not only be easier as a conversation option, but perhaps alot less cheesy than actually throwing a guantlet down on the ground. If someone got that into it though. I do have some suggestions. For now I'd rather follow the KISS rule.

 

MithranArkanere

I was already thinking of something like this, but I thought I would bring it up later. Since you mentioned it though, here are my Ideas.

 

 

FORMAL CHALLENGE:

Formal challenge increases the grand-standingness of the fight by making it a scheduled event,

At the same time, you would set the "Optional Bet/Wager" with your opponent, you could also add selections to set an "Optional Date/Time and then an Optional Place."

 

OPTIONAL DATE/TIME:

Schedule the fight to take place "NOW" by default or set a "TIME OF DAY" and then "TODAY" by default or "TOMORROW or NEXT [insert day of week]"

Post-poning the fight at all requires an additional OPTIONAL PLACE. When the fight is post-poned, if either opponent fails to show at appointed time and place, they automatically lose and forfeit any Bet/Wager. IF neither show (unlikely for NPCs unless deliberately delayed LOL by the player) then the fight is called off.

 

OPTIONAL PLACE:

IF the "OPTIONAL DATE/TIME" is not "NOW" and "TODAY" then an "OPTIONAL PLACE" for the, then post-poned, fight to take place at MUST be chosen or be defaulted to "HERE," the current location. When the fight is post-poned, if either opponent fails to show at appointed time and place, they automatically lose and forfeit any Bet/Wager. IF neither show (unlikely for NPCs unless deliberately delayed LOL by the player) then the fight is called off.

 

Everybody talking about Martin:

People I appreciate your enthusiasm and I'm glad you found the possible entertainment value this mod could bring, but please say whether or not you think this mod should be made or at the very least whether or not you like the idea.

AND please... please... quit just hijacking my thread!

[PasserThru]

C'mon ppl even if you can't mod, atleast say you'd like to see it made.

 

I want to keep this idea alive, because I think that just the simple challenge by itself is a good tradeoff of fun-factor versus work on the behalf of any modder than takes it on.

 

The mod has alot of bang for the buck, you might say.

 

C'mon ppl I thought this was the place to go for sharing ideas!

Was I wrong?