Mummelpuffin Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) I know, I know. You've seen them before. But I'm really lost. My game was fine until yesterday, when Iinstalled "physics impact damage fix", "Improved close-faced helmets", "killing traps", "skyrim heartrate beta", A Midian Born's "book of silence" textures, "RS Children Overhaul", and Sons of Skyrim Only". Now I have the classic Bethesda logo CTD. My load order: -----------------------------------------------------Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmRSkyrimChildren.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espTouringCarriages.espDartTrap harder.espDifferently Ebony.espHeadtracking.espRaceMenu.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-No Screen Blood.espdD-Increase Fall Damage.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espDeadlyDragons.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espimp_helm_dawn.espRaceMenuPlugin.espPhysicsImpactDamageFix.espFhaarkas Font Mod - SkyUI.espSkyUI.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.espDead Body Collision.espHonedMetal.espRSChildren - Complete.espimp_help_dbrn.espKillingTraps.espKillingTraps_FirePlates.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.espRSChildren_PatchUSKP.espSkyRe_Main.esp3DNPC.espAFT_iNPCFix.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espaMidianBorn_ContentAddon.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espimp_helm.espimp_guard_helm.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.espRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.espSkyRe_EncounterZones.espInconsequential NPCs.espCloaks.espSkyrim Better Roads - All In One - Merged.espSkyRe_Survivalism.espSkyRe_EnemyScaling.espSkyrimSpeeds.espSons of Skyrim Only.espTTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.espSkyRe_StandingStones.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimalBehavior.espChesko_Frostfall.espTTYM - Frostfall Module.espSkyRe_Races.espSkyRe_EnemyAI.espHoldBorderBanners.espiNeed.espSkyRe_Combat.espSkyrimHeartRate.espYield 2.0.espReProccer.esp------------------------------------------------------- Notes: If I understand the "Troubleshooting FAQ" correctly, this sort of CTD is only caused by a mod not loading a necessary parent file, either due to it missing completely or being in the wrong load order. Looking at the load order again, I feel like DartTrapharder.esp might be a culprit, as it's part of "Killing Traps" yet loads before the main file. The mod author claims load order is not an issue, but I'm not sure if I believe that. RS children overhaul has patches for Dragonborn and Hearthfire, but not Dawnguard. The mod page makes no mention of Dawnguard being incompatible, so I doubt it's an issue. Obviously, I seriously doubt this has anything to do with mods installed before the crashes. Yes, I have set up the memory patch within SKSE. (Give Firstborn to Sheson). I will try to answer any questions you may have. Please ask for more before simply saying "not enough information". Thanks for any help you can give me. Edited September 4, 2014 by Mummelpuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disschorde Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 When does your game crash? 1. Right after Bethesda logo?2. While loading a save?3. Immediately? This will help with finding the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelan255 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Looking at the load order again, I feel like DartTrapharder.esp might be a culprit, as it's part of "Killing Traps" yet loads before the main file. The mod author claims load order is not an issue, but I'm not sure if I believe that.Did you try fixing that? I think the author says "load order doesn't matter" in reference to every other mod not related to his. But a masterfile has to be loaded before every other file that's using the master's ressources. That's a basic law of the engine and might cause exactly your issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro_69_327 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 To find out if it IS a missing master OR out of place loading order, .... Download TES5Edit,,,,install, click OK to what is pre-selected for you. IF it finishes and says..."Background loader finished" then you have NO missing Masters. IF you get an Error,,,that IS the file/'s with missing masters. Download Wrye bash....on the [MODS] tab, missing masters are shown in RED. IF you try to create a Bashed patch it will warn you if you have mods loading in a bad way. IE: masters before the plugins that require the masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mummelpuffin Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 Guess what? That DartTrapharder.esp was indeed the issue. I suppose I should be a little more confident - If I tried this earlier I wouldn't have posted this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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