Is being a victim a state of being or a mindset?

[kvnchrist]

I was wondering about the mentality of people who seem to think they are trapped in situations that adversely effect them mentally, physically and emotionally.

 

I was wondering if a person could get so use to abuse that they actually begin believing that they deserve it or determine they don't deserve anything better.

 

Could a person create a mindset that they have a duty to some unwritten social law endure being abused in order to complete something beyond their on survival instinct?

 

Could they become so used to this treatment that they become uncomfortable without it and even teacher their young that it is their proper place to be abused?

[standalone09]

Well why not People can get used to anything doesnt matter if its bad or good.

 

Just needs time or not.

 

hope i didnt get the question wrong lol :)

Edited September 13, 2014 by standalone09

[edgeburner]

I think the word "trapped" is key. If a person/spouse is in a relationship where they believe they simply have no other recourse, they can be conditioned by the abuser to do just about anything he/she wants. They will come to believe that every aspect of their existence is based on the whims of the abuser.....placate the abuser at all cost ?

Methinks that this is a form of the human survival instinct.

Just look at at how woman who endure abusive husbands attempt to justify the abuse. The passing of time and the consistent abuse becomes rote, so ingrained into their psych that they condition themselves to believe that they deserve such treatment.

Humans can be conditioned...just like Pavlov's dogs....

As far as becoming conditioned to the point that they will pass such utterly submissive tendencies on to their offspring...I doubt it...unless they exist in a society that is burdened by some sort of Sharia-like law that encourages such nonsense. The offspring will born with a mind of their own, and the unconditioned mind will always resist abuse.

Edited September 17, 2014 by edgeburner

[standalone09]

Isn´t Society just like a bunch of Chicken?

 

http://www.moehren-guerilla.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/legehennen.jpg

 

 

"Guys they will kill us we have to do something!" chicken A.

 

"Oh comon if thats true why are they giving us food??? and a roof above our head´s??? You are crazy..." chicken B.

 

"But..." chicken A.

 

"Yeah chicken A. was always kinda weird..." chicken C.

 

 

http://ericmackonline.com/ICA/BLOGS/emonline.nsf/dx/CookedChicken.jpg/$file/CookedChicken.jpg

 

The moral of the story... Mankind is basically in a cage... and Since we got used to it... we consider anything that is beyond "get a job, watch tv..." crazy,

 

not realising that we are the actual crazy one´s.

[kvnchrist]

I'm more worried about the mindset of those who think that endurance makes you strong in the face of abuse. The idea of accepting abuse as a part of life as a functional member of society and that it is someones debt to society to continually support this behavior.

 

You can endure anything until it kills you, but if you endure abuse for someone else is that you being a victim of said abuse or a champion of something else. I hear about wemen staying in an abusive relationship for their kids, but is doing that not teaching those kids that abusive conduct is acceptable behavior? Are children seeing this abuse even through they are not physically struck be the abuse., victimized by it? How will these kids incorporate the lessens learned by what they see into their own lives as an adult?