Onoska Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) When I enter the Soul Cairn for the first time I get a CTD every time. Of course, I can't progress through the Dawnguard questline with this problem. I really have no clue what could be causing this problem, but I figure it could possibly be one of my mods. My laptop's specs: Intel Core i7-4810MQ CPU 2.8GHz16 gb RAMWindows 8.1 64-bit1 tb 7200 rpm hard driveGPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M I have all the DLCs including the HD DLC. My game is utd I use the NMM and the steam workshop for mods. I also use SKSE, and I use LOOT to organize my mods. My Mod List: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDelev, RelevUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espVersion: 2.0.5aDelev, Names, Relev, StatsDawnguard.esmDelev, RelevUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espVersion: 2.0.5Delev, Names, Relev, StatsHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espVersion: 2.0.5Dragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espVersion: 2.0.5DelevSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmVersion: 2.05.021ETaC - RESOURCES.esmRaceCompatibility.esmXvision Children.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espVersion: 1.1.7NakedComments.esplush grass and trees.esppureweather.espBetter Vampires ML.esp•Note: Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.better dynamic snow.espbetter embers.espimpgen.espChange Follower Outfits Redux.espChange Follower Outfits Redux -- Dragonborn.espChange Follower Outfits Redux -- Hearthfire.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espDelev, Relevhdplants+herbs.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp•Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.Change Follower Outfits Redux -- Dawnguard.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.espSkyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.espETaC - Complete.espBook Covers Skyrim.espETaC - Complete Xvision Patch.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espLocalizedGuildJobs.esp•Warning: Contains 15 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.RealisticNeedsandDiseases.espDelev, RelevRND_USKP-Patch.espRelevSkyUI.espVersion: 4.1FreecameramovementThrones - DLC - Alt.espCloaks - Player Only - Dawnguard.espChange Follower Outfits Redux -- USKP 1.2 Farkas Compatability.espViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp•Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.NonEssentialChildren.espImproved Dragon Shouts.espDestructible_bottles.espRND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espMighty Beasts - Werewolf.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espDifferently Ebony.esprealistic piercing arrows.espskoomacooking.espPerksUI.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.esp•Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.RND_ETaC-Patch.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espVersion: 2.05.033ETaC - Dragon Bridge South Xvision Patch.espSOS - Smurf Average Addon.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espVersion: 1.8aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espRaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.espThieves Guild Redone.espInconsequential NPCs.espFNISspells.espSMIM-Merged-All.espXvision Children - IncNPCs.espshowersininns.espElysiumEstate.espElysiumEstate-HF.espElysiumEstate-DG.espElysiumEstate-DB.espCloaks - Player Only.esp•Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.getdrunk.espRND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp•Note: The Unique BOOZE Bottles plugin file can be deactivated from your load order with this patch active - but remember to keep the meshes and textures installed.Unique BOOZE Bottles.espskoomaeffect.espStormLord.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.esppurewaters.espVersion: 4.7RND_PureWaters-Patch.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espRND_AnimalLoot.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espVersion: 1.2.8Cannabis.espVersion: 8732battleflute.espCannabisUpdate.espVersion: 8732vampirebeastbloodringleft.espCRC: 6910436BVampiricDrain-Immensely-Powerful.espXvision Children - Complete.espXvision Children - NEC.espXvision Children - USKP.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espVersion: 2.4.1 Edited September 16, 2014 by Onoska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) delete and then remake your bashed patch and the Reproccer patch if you're using it, fixes that kind of problem for me :smile: Edited September 16, 2014 by gromulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoska Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 delete and then remake your bashed patch and the Reproccer patch if you're using it, fixes that kind of problem for me :smile: Can you explain this more in depth please? I have no idea have no idea how to do any of that :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Ok, if you don't know what the Reproccer is, don't worry about it, forget I mentioned it. Are you using LOOT, NMM, Wrye Bash, TES5EDIT, Mod Organizer? Basically what programs have access to your load order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoska Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Ok, if you don't know what the Reproccer is, don't worry about it, forget I mentioned it. Are you using LOOT, NMM, Wrye Bash, TES5EDIT, Mod Organizer? Basically what programs have access to your load order?I am using NMM, LOOT, and TES5EDIT. I just downloaded Wyre Bash, but I don't know how to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Loot is not 100% and if that is all you're using you're going to have many problems as you progress through your play through with many mods loaded, you should be using 2 other programs ( Wrye Bash and TES5Edit ), when you run Wrye Bash if any checkmarks are not green, those mods are causing problems in your game, you make them turn green by dragging them up or down in your load order in wrye bash till they do turn green, ok that's one problem 2) with many mods loaded into your game you HAVE to have either a merged patch or bashed patch file, once again Wrye Bash is your friend because it will automatically make you a bashed patch file when it loads your mods. A bashed patch file makes all your weapon and armor and other mods play nice together, it also keeps track of leveled lists in the game and makes them work better together also. One other thing, make sure you enable ( check mark ) the bashed patch Wrye Bash makes, which should always be last in your load order unless you're using an ENB or the Reproccer. DO NOT USE A MERGED PATCH AND A BASHED PATCH AT THE SAME TIME, ONE OR THE OTHER. 3) TES5EDIT is used to do 2 things, (A) verify that your load order is not missing any files that your mods need and (B) verify that no primary files are being loaded after secondary files. When you run TES5EDIT it will throw up an error box and the error will be displayed at the bottom of the right pane / panel. All you have to do is read what it says and it will tell you exactly how to fix the problem in Wrye Bash. Yes, you can open Wrye Bash while TES5EDIT is open so you don't even have to write down what the error is :smile: Please remember that while LOOT is a great program it is NOT 100 % Let me know if you need anymore help :smile: Edited September 16, 2014 by gromulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoska Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) I tried wyre bash and i am still getting a CTD. All my mods in Wyre Bash have green boxes with green checks in them. I am assuming this means there are no conflicts Edited September 17, 2014 by Onoska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 that's good that's how Wrye Bash should be, did you run TES5EDIT also? You have to make sure there are no error boxes that pop up in there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onoska Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Yes I've done tes5edit, but I am still have the CTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 have you tried verifying your steam cache? it seriously sounds like it's a corrupt vanilla file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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