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After my last post in a mod, a rude one, I feel necessary make clear, now that I m calm, that my intention is show the strange fact that in a video game you can kill kids but not put them nude. Both are evil acts. That’s the intention of the post in the mod killchild or something. Someone say the game as realism and write about the slavery system ingame, slavery is bad but is not the same kill someone. And you can rescue the kids. Personally I never kill or other things to kids in videogames or RL.

I think I cannot impose my moral to others, so I end my rants about that permanently.

 

That’s a little complain about the Fallout 3 foods and drinks. The post about realism make me think about how much realism is in this game and the food was one of the most strange.

Think that way: you find a cookie in a coffin or buried in a box, is buried in the independence day just for the future people know how to taste a cookie 200 years ago.

You really eat that thing?

How much time last the food? Few months.

In exceptional cases like the pole expedition, they died frozen and after 50 years the food still edible.

Conditions: Canned food frozen to temp. -20 a -70 C, is very rare find these conditions.

 

In a world that as been destroyed by a nuclear war you cannot find food after 10 or 20 years, if some food last enough some survivor already find it, after 200 years the alcohol and packed food is extremely rare, and if you find one you need to think twice or more about eat that. Whisky and other alcohol is another history, in the pyramids the thieves of the british museum find wine that last 2000 years, and they assure is still drinkable, because they drink this.

The whisky and other alcoholic beverages must be extremely valuable after that long time, because without agriculture you cannot produce more, maybe in the area called Oasis they can make if Harold tell them how to.

 

And about the gore I agree with Arwen about is realism tweaks, in all the world even the most monstrous people cannot stay close to rotten corpses, normally they collect the skulls of their enemies, maybe is skin but I cannot find tribes that collect rotten bodies, maybe cannibals.

 

In the pit they eat the people that are sick of troglodism? :-p

And the player is forced to taste that if he/she as a realism mod installed?

And they ask why they become sick?

 

The cities, bridges, monuments, subways are still in very good shape after 200 years. Search in your city a place that don’t be maintained in 200 years, or in “only” 100. You cannot find one. All the surviving items are restored versions.

 

Everyone know how easy a big building fall.

In F3 cities the supermutants fight every day using heavy explosives for 2 centuries and some building are perfect.

 

Well, the list is long.

 

In a more realistic way if you find some whisky, guns or ammo very well hidden is the same thing than find a galleon treasure these days. You have trouble to sell it, and you have more trouble trying to keep it.

A city that have a water purifier is a very lucky one, if as more than one maybe is a commercial center.

If they have a source of food the city is surely very populated and well defended.

They need workers, normally they live in the surrounding areas, and patrols, etc.

Maybe one or more criminal group disputing govern the city trying to control the water or the food.

 

This is more the old Fallout I remember, I write all of this as example about how to respect the timeline and the original game, now because the original script and land lack of Fallout spirit we need lots of mods to make a true Fallout game.

 

In 200 years humanity:

- Restore agriculture in some way, anything if they can make alcohol.

- Make new guns. If you go a museum you know why.

- Make new foods. Recipes are based in the things that exist in that future.

- The water chip if the vaults is valuable again?

- Only the most secrets vaults still exist, the game as too much vaults working.

- Most building are rebuild using old ones, search about that in history webs.

- Many builds are more Megaton alike, that’s a realistic Fallout place.

- The rich and criminal have Tempeni level buildings or better.

- Robots? Well, robot armies are a normal thing and you need the protection of one if you want a city that last more than 5 years. If not, any medium level technician can take all the wasteland.

 

Well, that’s my opinion for now. My PC died in January and the new one as not enough power to handle the game, maybe in the next 2 months I can fix that, for now I keep planning my future pack of mods for my game.

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I think you are taking the realism in Fallout much to seriously. First of all, I don't know what killing kid's thing Your talking about. If someone made a mod on it, that's there choice, and if you don't like it, don't download it. The reason there not nude is because that's illigal I think.

 

About the slavers, slavery has happened in history, it's not made up. I'm not saying slavery is ok, because it's not. Your topic sounds like to me that Fallout is a discrace to the world.

If you find it so offensive in these certain areas and un - realistic, why do you play it? Maybe you should make a realism mod or something.

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Thanks for answer. But my english surely is very bad because my post is not taken the way I want.

 

1 – About kids I m wondering about how is possible killing is normal and legal. Thats all.

 

2- The post is about how ridiculous and unreal is the food in game. If all happend 20 years after the war maybe you can find some food. But 200 years?

 

Thats all. Next time I use less words because triying to make things clear made things worse.

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You cant make a game balanced and realistic at the same time..thats all i wanna say..

 

Not to mention fun. If Fallout 3 were as ultra-realistic as some people seem to think it should be, it just wouldn't be any fun to play. Some concessions must be made in the name of fun. Others are made in the name of cool, or comedy.

 

1 – About kids I m wondering about how is possible killing is normal and legal. Thats all.

 

Er, what? I don't know where you're getting that.

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