Another Load Order Question

[cathyat157]

Hi, I'm having problems with Fallout crashing, especially around Megaton and entering and exciting cells. In fact around Megaton, my savegames become corrupt and I am unable to save inside or around the area. My mods and order are as follow:

 

Fallout3.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Anchorage.esm

Zeta.esm

HairPack.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

CALIBR.esm

xCALIBR.esm

CFWRv4.esm

20th Century Weapons.esm

TalonExtraArmor.esm

Project Beauty.esm

LingsFinerThings.esm

RK-Skelette-3.0.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

Console Key Binder.esp

AAArmoury.esp

rockville.esp

OutFits.esp

CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

Animy_prostitution.esp

Cliff's_Sellable_Body_Parts.esp

InvasionRadio.esp

All Anchorage Armors Usable.esp

WW2Uniforms.esp

1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp

PeachCreekRuins.esp

PunisherGear.esp

Existence2.0.esp

GNRfix.esp

BrokenSteelFix-GNRAnnouncements.esp

SOL.esp

Dogmeat Leather Armor - no crafting.esp

Tactical Weapons by gRs Frederyck.esp

H&K PSG-1 Sniper Rifles.esp

MX_Vault74_eng.esp

MX_Vault74fix.esp

Ahztek's Weapons.esp

Pop Culture shirts.esp

MazurBandanas.esp

01Tucu'sBandanas.esp

CombatDuster.esp

eyepatches-english.esp

mantles_designs.esp

Barskog's Goodies.esp

KnightmaresClothing.esp

Vault Tec's Vault 77.esp

Bandshirts.esp

Hard Disk Drives.esp

Slower Levelling - very slow.esp

GaryHoloTape.esp

Rivens_Eyescapes.esp

Feng Shui.esp

CWS.esp

GreyKnightHalberd.esp

[uU] Unique Uniques .04.esp

Steampack.esp

NecronomiconExMortis 5.5.esp

Arms_dealer_V1.esp

Merged_RC_Sunglasses-Joes_v1.0.esp

Glow Sticks.esp

Bonds GNR Studios.esp

01AtM - Firefly Ranch.esp

Mannequin.esp

mantles_for_everyone.esp

Caravan Tracking.esp

SkillCheck.esp

Expensive Pre-war suits.esp

FalsSexyT3Conversions.esp

DIM TYPE3 conversions.esp

MantisArmor.esp

Amy_Armor.esp

SexyMantisArmor.esp

MantisCyberGear.esp

FaithOutfit.esp

Luka.esp

BodyJewelry.esp

blackrock_shooter.esp

StarGazer_Type3.esp

LingsFinerThings.esp

ignis.esp

AsharasFormalClothing.esp

Night Vision Sunglasses.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

eyes_hairpack_en.esp

D.C. Confidential with Glow.esp

JQ-DuncanSword.esp

AfrosNukaCola.esp

SD's Wasteland Furniture.esp

JH Cola.esp

amjycollector container looting.esp

Mysteriouswoman_dressncoat.esp

Trucker Holotapes.esp

Double Perks.esp

Dree Perks.esp

DCInteriors_DLC_Collectables.esp

CEI - CaesarrulezExcessiveInteriorsEN.esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Vendor).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Containers).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (NPC_Settler).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Vault 101).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (RivetCity).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (TEST Container).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Raider).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Slaver).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Chinese Ghoul).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (SuperMutant).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Talon_Regulator).esp

20th Century v5 ALIVE (Brotherhood_Outcast).esp

dD-Larger Blood.esp

dD-More Gore.esp

dD-More Gore-Zeta.esp

dD-More Gore-The Pitt.esp

dD-More Gore-PointLookout.esp

dD-More Gore-BrokenSteel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - No Ghoul Raise.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

MMM - Stank's Eggs + Vendor v 1-4.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

Unique Dogmeat.esp

xCALIBR_override.esp

VaultNo5GNR_EV.esp

 

Total active plugins: 143

Total plugins: 157

 

 

Do I need to make a patch, and if so which mods should patch? Any help would be appreciated! (And yes, I have read numorous tips for modding and the specific mods.)

[rtol321]

I don't know if this is the problem, but shouldn't all the ESPs be below the esms? For example RK-skellete-3.0

[Fonger]

that load order desperately needs ordering

 

use BOSS (found on fo3nexus)

 

or the ordering function in FOMM

[cathyat157]

that load order desperately needs ordering

 

use BOSS (found on fo3nexus)

 

or the ordering function in FOMM

 

 

You know, I thought I had this somewhat right....and I was WRONG! Thanks for recommending BOSS. I downloaded it and ran it, so I'll see if this works better.....although I highly doubt it could be worse.

[BaronofHe11]

BOSS is nice. I used i a lot on oblivion. Saves a lot of time when you have over a hundred mods.

[rickerhk]

I would get FO3Plugin and merge all those clothing mods into one Clothing-borg.esp to reduce the mod count.

 

But aside from that, when I was running MMM, and an area became unstable or would CTD when entering somewhere, I would do this:

1. make a full save from the menu (not a quick save), then exit the game

2. Untick ALL the MMM esps and esm, and other mods that may require it - like MMM - Stank's Eggs + Vendor v 1-4.esp , for example.

3. launch the game and create another full save, then exit

4. tick all your MMM plugins, launch the game

5. Wait indoors for 4 days so everything respawns.