Dullahan Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 Hey, i was wonder if there were possibilities of Advanced Mods (if so, i'll teach myself how to mod, and make them myself) to change specific outcomes for the game for us plays with 'Morals' Mods i had in mind 1. In the Arena, after you do the Grey Prince quest, the Grey Prince allows you to kill him without a fight. I have moral qualms about killing those who put up no fight, but i don't want to get my ar$e handed to me..I was thinking something a la Fable, where you have a choice to walk out of the match. Though you would forfeit the title of Champion, people will still have you in high regard for getting that far and sparing a famous champions life. 2. In a quest where you have to do the Hunters Run, where the Orc doesn't kill that guy 3. Giving a sizable amount of gold to the beggars in the towns, thus raising your fame. 4. the ULTIMATE Question. DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE YET TO FINISH THE MAIN QUEST!!!! A mod where ******** mysteriously returns to life after defeating Mehrunes Dagon, after ****** transforms into the Avatar of Akatosh or whatever, he appears by the new statue in *************, and the game has a happy ending, where he becomes *********. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhydderch Hael Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 1. In the Arena, after you do the Grey Prince quest, the Grey Prince allows you to kill him without a fight. I have moral qualms about killing those who put up no fight, but i don't want to get my ar$e handed to me..I was thinking something a la Fable, where you have a choice to walk out of the match. Though you would forfeit the title of Champion, people will still have you in high regard for getting that far and sparing a famous champions life.I feel this is a matter of give-and-take. If you desire to have the Grey Prince's training, then you have to accept the suicidal Champion as an opponent. Have a problem with mercy killing? Then don't give him the journal, and instead challenge him to the death while he still has his self-respect about him. In my book, this is exactly how I do it (I save my blood-ticket to the Dark Brotherhood on something more satisfying). You already have a choice seeing how this will end. What you're asking for is frosting on a cake to eat after taking a free lunch. And if you're worried about losing to the Grey Prince— if you survived the fight that earned you the title of Blue Team Champion (doing so while limited in your armor selection), you'll have no problem against a single Orc while outfitted in your preferred armor suite. 2. In a quest where you have to do the Hunters Run, where the Orc doesn't kill that guy.This isn't so much a problem in my opinion. I just wanted to tell you, thanks to Radiant AI, my latest character couldn't do the quest because a Bravil Town Guard took him down before I got a chance to speak to him. I like to think Aleron Loche is still taking in the sights on Fort Grief Island. 3. Giving a sizable amount of gold to the beggars in the towns, thus raising your fame.Aye. I used to pull food items out of the barrels and crates adorning the streets, making Restore Fatigue potions out of them for sale later. That is, until I saw Simplicia the Slow eating from one of these barrels in the Market District— the most heart-wrenchingly pathetic sight I've beheld in this game. I've never touched the food within them ever since, lest I deprive the beggars a meal they desperately need. It made me think a lot on this issue. As a Thieves' Guild member, you cannot steal from a beggar. This even goes to the point you cannot pick-pocket their food sack they keep beside their bedroll. If a mod could remove the ownership tag of a beggar's food bag, you can always slip by and give the beggars extra food. 4. the ULTIMATE Question.Sometimes a story stays with you because of the lingering memory you hold of something you lose, rather than by what you gain. Not all good endings have "..happily ever after" in their prose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullahan Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 1. In the Arena, after you do the Grey Prince quest, the Grey Prince allows you to kill him without a fight. I have moral qualms about killing those who put up no fight, but i don't want to get my ar$e handed to me..I was thinking something a la Fable, where you have a choice to walk out of the match. Though you would forfeit the title of Champion, people will still have you in high regard for getting that far and sparing a famous champions life.I feel this is a matter of give-and-take. If you desire to have the Grey Prince's training, then you have to accept the suicidal Champion as an opponent. Have a problem with mercy killing? Then don't give him the journal, and instead challenge him to the death while he still has his self-respect about him. In my book, this is exactly how I do it (I save my blood-ticket to the Dark Brotherhood on something more satisfying). You already have a choice seeing how this will end. What you're asking for is frosting on a cake to eat after taking a free lunch. And if you're worried about losing to the Grey Prince— if you survived the fight that earned you the title of Blue Team Champion (doing so while limited in your armor selection), you'll have no problem against a single Orc while outfitted in your preferred armor suite. 2. In a quest where you have to do the Hunters Run, where the Orc doesn't kill that guy.This isn't so much a problem in my opinion. I just wanted to tell you, thanks to Radiant AI, my latest character couldn't do the quest because a Bravil Town Guard took him down before I got a chance to speak to him. I like to think Aleron Loche is still taking in the sights on Fort Grief Island. 3. Giving a sizable amount of gold to the beggars in the towns, thus raising your fame.Aye. I used to pull food items out of the barrels and crates adorning the streets, making Restore Fatigue potions out of them for sale later. That is, until I saw Simplicia the Slow eating from one of these barrels in the Market District— the most heart-wrenchingly pathetic sight I've beheld in this game. I've never touched the food within them ever since, lest I deprive the beggars a meal they desperately need. It made me think a lot on this issue. As a Thieves' Guild member, you cannot steal from a beggar. This even goes to the point you cannot pick-pocket their food sack they keep beside their bedroll. If a mod could remove the ownership tag of a beggar's food bag, you can always slip by and give the beggars extra food. 4. the ULTIMATE Question.Sometimes a story stays with you because of the lingering memory you hold of something you lose, rather than by what you gain. Not all good endings have "..happily ever after" in their prose. Hmm.. Ok, thanks for the info. And yeah, while i haven't seen Simplicia the Slow eatting from a barrel, i wanted to do this mod after talking to that woman in the house on the Waterfront, the one who said she was discontent or something to that effect.. If i;m feeling overly moralistic, i turn the sounds down, so i don't have to hear the pitiful laments of the begger. It saddens me. What an awesome game.. haha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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