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I am frequently running into a problem with CTD's when I save. I have a savegame where I've managed to scramble onto a rock and have a long battle with a bleak mine guard using arrows and magic to nickel and dime him to death. If I save right away after loading I usually don't have problems. After I whack on him awhile and try to save, I get a CTD. If I run the game without OBSE, this problem dosn't seem to occur. I have disabled all my mods that use OBSE (all two of them) and it still dose it reliably. I disabled CM partners too, since I wasn't sure if it used OBSE also. Issue is still there.

This is a fresh install, with each mod being installed by OBSE. Wrye bash is being used to merge and adjust load order via BOSS.

 

Rig:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+

2.01 GHz

2GB Ram

XP Pro, SP3

 

No overclocking or anything.

 

Mods, via BOSS:

 

 

 

 

 

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Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility

 

© Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009-2010

Some rights reserved.

CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/

v1.51 (2 April 2010)

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Master .ESM date: Fri Sep 29 09:39:52 2006

FCOM not detected.

OOO detected.

Better Cities not detected.

 

 

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Recognised and re-ordered mod files:

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Oblivion.esm

. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 1166 $, $Date: 2010-07-16 08:11:18 -0700 (Fri, 16 Jul 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

 

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Music,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).

. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.

. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

 

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

 

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM.

. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}}

 

Improved Water.esp

 

Storms & Sound.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Owner}}

. Note: Use only one Storms and Sound mod file.

 

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

DLCOrrery.esp

 

DLCVileLair.esp

 

DLCSpellTomes.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

 

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-M,Graphics}}

 

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}

. Note: For Vanilla, do not use with OOO/MMM/FCOM, use that version instead.

 

TheHolyBlade.esp

 

RogueLeather.esp

 

DLCThievesDen.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light,Actors.AIPackages}}

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.Spells,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,R.ChangeSpells,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

 

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

 

OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp

 

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Birthsigns.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp

. Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Dangerous_traps.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Potions.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

FalamirTheMerchant.esp

 

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}}

 

Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp

 

Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

 

Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.esp

 

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}

 

xuldarkforest.esp

 

xulStendarrValley.esp

 

xulTheHeath.esp

 

XulEntiusGorge.esp

 

xulFallenLeafEverglade.esp

 

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

 

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

 

mythsandlegends.esp

. Note: May cause NPCs to generate the message "The ghosts mouth moves but you cannot hear what he says."

 

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

. Note: Make sure version is 1.6.3 or later.

 

xulbravilbarrowfields.esp

 

xulLushWoodlands.esp

 

xulAncientYews.esp

 

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

 

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

 

xulArriusCreek.esp

 

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

 

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

. Note: Only use one UL Rolling Hills esp

 

xulPantherRiver.esp

 

xulRiverEthe.esp

 

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

 

xulImperialIsle.esp

 

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

 

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

 

xulAspenWood.esp

 

Harvest [Flora].esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}}

 

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

 

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

 

movablebodies.esp

 

Ayelid Wells.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts,Scriptcontents}}

 

AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Sound}}

 

AgarVariedSpellSounds_SupremeMagicka.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Sound}}

 

MidasSpells.esp

 

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-F}}

 

babehair_EV.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair}}

 

soya_04hair.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair}}

 

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair}}

 

bgMagicEV.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Names,Delev,Relev}} if you are running more than one magic overhaul and want to use LAME spell names.

. Note: Move Supreme Magica after LAME if you want Supreme Magica spell stats.

 

bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp

 

bgMagicItemSigil.esp

 

bgMagicEVStartspells.esp

 

bgMagicBonus.esp

 

bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

 

bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp

 

OOO-Respawn_Week.esp

. Note: Respawn mod

. Note: Use only one Respawn or Timescale mod

 

bgMagicEVShader.esp

 

bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp

 

bgMagicLightningbolt.esp

 

OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Sound,Graphics}}

 

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

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Unrecognised mod files:

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

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Unknown mod file: Gizmodian - Shell of the Artifice.esp

Unknown mod file: Sword of Lightning.esp

 

 

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Done.

 

 

 

Your help is much appreciated, I've been struggling with this for over a month now.

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Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.Spells,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,R.ChangeSpells,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

 

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Birthsigns.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp

. Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Dangerous_traps.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Potions.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

looks like you are using items you shouldn't

 

and then there's

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}

. Note: For Vanilla, do not use with OOO/MMM/FCOM, use that version instead.

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Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.Spells,Actors.Stats,Delev,Factions,Graphics,Invent,Names,R.ChangeSpells,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}}

 

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Birthsigns.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp

. Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Dangerous_traps.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-Potions.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

 

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

. OOO Specific Note: Not use with FULL version of OOO, included.

looks like you are using items you shouldn't

 

and then there's

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}

. Note: For Vanilla, do not use with OOO/MMM/FCOM, use that version instead.

Hmmm, I used the included omod conversion data. I'll try disabling those items discretely and see if it helps. The EVE_Stock equipment replacer I'm a little confused about. Is the note saying there's a stock equipment replacer included in OOO, or MMM, or FCOM?

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I deactivated each of these mods and it still ctds on save reliably when OBSE is running. Any other suggestions?

 

I have a theory that while OBSE dosn't itself cause CTDs, if there are problems in mods (even non-OBSE mods), it can escalate those problems into a ctd under the right conditions.

Anybody care to comment?

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EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}}

. Note: For Vanilla, do not use with OOO/MMM/FCOM, use that version instead.

 

Hmmm, I used the included omod conversion data. I'll try disabling those items discretely and see if it helps. The EVE_Stock equipment replacer I'm a little confused about. Is the note saying there's a stock equipment replacer included in OOO, or MMM, or FCOM?

 

There are numerous version of EVE in the download page, including one specifically for OOO/MMM/Francesco etc.

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