gaivrn Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Hi, My oblivion is crashing upon start up. Iam convinced that it is due to my load order so can anyone please have a look at my load list and comment? thanks in advanced ( My list is Below the text, click SHOW ) Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.7] 02 Francesco's leveled creatures-items mod.esm [Version 3.3d] 03 Francesco's optional new items add-on.esm [Version 3.3d] 04 Francesco's optional new creatures add-on.esm [Version 3.3d] 05 npc with jobs.esm 06 CM Partners.esm 07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 1.2.1] 09 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.7] 0A All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.7] 0B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.7] 0C Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 0D Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 0E Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 0F Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 10 Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp 11 All Natural - Natural Weather.esp [Version 0.9.6] 12 NWJtamriel.esp 13 NWJtamriel4MMM.esp 14 IlluminationWithout.esp 15 IWR-Windows.esp 16 IWR-Lights.esp 17 IWR-Shutters.esp 18 IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp 19 IlluminationWithin.esp 1A WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp 1B Francesco's optional files.esp 1C NpcwithJobsCreatures.esp 1D Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0] 1E Crowded Roads 7.esp 1F Crowded Cities 15.esp 20 Crowded Roads 15.esp 21 Crowded Roads 23.esp 22 Crowded Cities 30.esp 23 Travel a.esp 24 Travel b.esp 25 Travel c.esp 26 Travel d.esp 27 travellers-new balance.esp 28 BadderShockFX.esp 29 BadderFrostFX.esp 2A BadderFireFX.esp 2B KatanasMod.esp 2C New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp 2D CurseOfHircine.esp 2E cidnothump.esp 2F cidnothumpMMversion.esp 30 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0.1] 31 JolardHome.esp 32 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 33 Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp 34 bartholm.esp 35 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 36 Mart's Monster Mod.esp 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp 38 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp 39 Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp 3A Mart's Monster Mod for Francescos.esp 3B Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp 3C Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp 3D Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp 3E Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp 3F Mart's Monster Mod - Increased Spawn Rates.esp 40 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp 41 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp 42 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp 43 NpcwithJobsCreatures4MMM.esp 44 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08] 45 Oblivion WarCry.esp [Version 1.09] 46 MidasSpells.esp 47 DLCHorseArmor.esp 48 castleofnight.esp 49 HoarfrostCastle.esp 4A ElsweyrAnequina.esp 4B DLCFrostcrag.esp 4C DLCOrrery.esp 4D DLCSpellTomes.esp 4E Knights.esp 4F Solace.esp 50 DLCThievesDen.esp 51 DLCVileLair.esp 52 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 53 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 obvious cause 2 mods that require Shivering Isles (indicated by their names) and you have SI loading VERY late you have severe load order problems run your load order through BOSS (found on tesnexus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaivrn Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 obvious cause 2 mods that require Shivering Isles (indicated by their names) and you have SI loading VERY late you have severe load order problems run your load order through BOSS (found on tesnexus) I have took you advice and made things a lot better. I downloaded BOSS rearranged some stuff, and did what it suggests. However the problem still persists, instead of crashing upon startup it crashes after the Bethesda. Here is what I have so far, please help thank you. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5] 02 Francesco's leveled creatures-items mod.esm [Version 3.3d] 03 Francesco's optional new items add-on.esm [Version 3.3d] 04 Francesco's optional new creatures add-on.esm [Version 3.3d] 05 npc with jobs.esm 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm 07 CM Partners.esm 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 1.2.1] 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A MOBS.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0B MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0C MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0D MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0E Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp 0F Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 10 Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp 11 Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.esp 12 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp 13 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp 14 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 15 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 16 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 17 All Natural - Natural Weather.esp [Version 0.9.6] 18 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 19 IlluminationWithin.esp 1A IWR-Lights.esp 1B IWR-Windows.esp 1C IWR-Shutters.esp 1D IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp 1E IlluminationWithout.esp 1F Travel a.esp 20 Travel b.esp 21 Travel c.esp 22 Travel d.esp 23 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 24 NWJtamriel.esp 25 NpcwithJobsCreatures.esp 26 Crowded Cities 15.esp 27 Crowded Cities 30.esp 28 Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0] 29 Crowded Roads 7.esp 2A Crowded Roads 15.esp 2B Crowded Roads 23.esp 2C travellers-new balance.esp 2D DLCHorseArmor.esp 2E DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2F DLCOrrery.esp 30 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 31 DLCVileLair.esp 32 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 33 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 34 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 35 DLCSpellTomes.esp 36 KatanasMod.esp 37 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp 38 DLCThievesDen.esp 39 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 3A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 3B Francesco's optional files.esp 3C Oblivion WarCry.esp [Version 1.09] 3D Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08] 3E OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0] 3F OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0] 40 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0] 41 Mart's Monster Mod.esp 42 Mart's Monster Mod for Francescos.esp 43 CurseOfHircine.esp 44 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp 45 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp 46 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp 47 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp 48 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp 49 Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp 4A Mart's Monster Mod - Increased Spawn Rates.esp 4B Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp 4C Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp 4D WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp 4E Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp 4F NWJtamriel4MMM.esp 50 NpcwithJobsCreatures4MMM.esp 51 castleofnight.esp 52 JolardHome.esp 53 Solace.esp 54 Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp 55 DLCFrostcrag.esp 56 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 57 Knights.esp 58 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 59 HoarfrostCastle.esp 5A ElsweyrAnequina.esp 5B HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0.1] 5C bartholm.esp 5D Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 5E cidnothumpMMversion.esp 5F MidasSpells.esp 60 Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp 61 cidnothump.esp 62 BadderFireFX.esp 63 BadderFrostFX.esp 64 BadderShockFX.esp 65 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodaY Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Crash on setup is often caused by a mod with a missing master. I suggest you open up wrye and scroll through your list of mods to see if any of them has a red square - which indicates a missing master.If you find that, you have solved your problem. If there aren't any red squares, try unistalling your latest installed mods one by one. I know that seems a lot of work, but it is probably the only solution. I am now scrolling through your updated LO, ill edit if I find any problems. Edit:1. You are using 2 to 5 natural weather esps that do exactly the same thing. It has been a long time since I played that mod, but I know for a fact you shouldn't use all esps (what do people have against reading readme's?)2. You are using both All Natural and Natural Weather. I couldn't find any other problems, but then again I don't know half your mods. I strongly suggest you read readme's - seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFact Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 2 mods that require Shivering Isles (indicated by their names) and you have SI loading VERY late Doesn't matter unless SI requiring mods have DLCShiveringIsles.esp in their master list. SI plugin is actually dummy plugin for loading resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davesmason Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 You're using both Crowded Cities 15 and Crowded Cities 30 - Same for Crowded roads - The mod states that you should only use one of them, either 15 or 30. (30 gives some more people, 15 gives lots more people) Try taking out one of the crowded cities and one of the crowded roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaivrn Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 Ok I did what everyone advised... however I'm still not sure which crowded roads has most npcs in it. It still doesn;t work.. Wyre Bash has no red squares, the ones with them are unchecked already. everything is a green box, some mods are green highlighted others are blue. The game still crashes, is there nothing else I can do? My Current List. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5] 02 Francesco's leveled creatures-items mod.esm [Version 3.3d] 03 Francesco's optional new items add-on.esm [Version 3.3d] 04 Francesco's optional new creatures add-on.esm [Version 3.3d] 05 npc with jobs.esm 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 07 CM Partners.esm 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 1.2.1] 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A MOBS.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0B MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0C MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0D MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a] 0E Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp 0F Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp 10 Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.esp 11 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp 12 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 13 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 14 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 15 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp 16 IlluminationWithin.esp 17 IWR-Lights.esp 18 IWR-Windows.esp 19 IWR-Shutters.esp 1A IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp 1B Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 1C NWJtamriel.esp 1D NpcwithJobsCreatures.esp 1E Crowded Cities 15.esp 1F Crowded Roads 7.esp 20 travellers-new balance.esp 21 DLCHorseArmor.esp 22 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 23 DLCOrrery.esp 24 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 25 DLCVileLair.esp 26 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 27 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 28 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 29 DLCSpellTomes.esp 2A DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 2B KatanasMod.esp 2C New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp 2D DLCThievesDen.esp 2E DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 30 Francesco's optional files.esp 31 Oblivion WarCry.esp [Version 1.09] 32 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08] 33 OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0] 34 OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0] 35 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0] 36 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 37 Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 38 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 39 CurseOfHircine.esp 3A Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p] 3B Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3D Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3E Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3F Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 40 Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Moderate Increased.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 41 Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 42 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 43 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 44 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 45 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 46 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 47 Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 48 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 49 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 4A WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp 4B Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 4C NWJtamriel4MMM.esp 4D NpcwithJobsCreatures4MMM.esp 4E castleofnight.esp 4F JolardHome.esp 50 Solace.esp 51 Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp 52 DLCFrostcrag.esp 53 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 54 Knights.esp 55 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 56 Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 57 HoarfrostCastle.esp 58 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 59 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0.1] 5A bartholm.esp 5B Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp 5C cidnothumpMMversion.esp 5D MidasSpells.esp 5E Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 5F cidnothump.esp 60 BadderFireFX.esp 61 BadderFrostFX.esp 62 BadderShockFX.esp 63 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 64 IlluminationWithout.esp 65 Travel a.esp 66 Travel b.esp 67 Travel c.esp 68 Travel d.esp 69 Crowded Roads.esp [Version 2.0] I actually took out the Natural mod and decreased All Natural esps Also. having trying that it didn;t work So i put them back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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