Load Order?

[gaivrn]

Hi, My oblivion is crashing upon start up. Iam convinced that it is due to my load order so can anyone please have a look at my load list and comment? thanks in advanced

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Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]
02  Francesco's leveled creatures-items mod.esm  [Version 3.3d]
03  Francesco's optional new items add-on.esm  [Version 3.3d]
04  Francesco's optional new creatures add-on.esm  [Version 3.3d]
05  npc with jobs.esm
06  CM Partners.esm
07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
09  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.7]
0A  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.7]
0B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.7]
0C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
0D  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
0E  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
0F  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
10  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
11  All Natural - Natural Weather.esp  [Version 0.9.6]
12  NWJtamriel.esp
13  NWJtamriel4MMM.esp
14  IlluminationWithout.esp
15  IWR-Windows.esp
16  IWR-Lights.esp
17  IWR-Shutters.esp
18  IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
19  IlluminationWithin.esp
1A  WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp
1B  Francesco's optional files.esp
1C  NpcwithJobsCreatures.esp
1D  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]
1E  Crowded Roads 7.esp
1F  Crowded Cities 15.esp
20  Crowded Roads 15.esp
21  Crowded Roads 23.esp
22  Crowded Cities 30.esp
23  Travel a.esp
24  Travel b.esp
25  Travel c.esp
26  Travel d.esp
27  travellers-new balance.esp
28  BadderShockFX.esp
29  BadderFrostFX.esp
2A  BadderFireFX.esp
2B  KatanasMod.esp
2C  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
2D  CurseOfHircine.esp
2E  cidnothump.esp
2F  cidnothumpMMversion.esp
30  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.0.1]
31  JolardHome.esp
32  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
33  Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp
34  bartholm.esp
35  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
36  Mart's Monster Mod.esp
37  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
38  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
39  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
3A  Mart's Monster Mod for Francescos.esp
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Increased Spawn Rates.esp
40  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
43  NpcwithJobsCreatures4MMM.esp
44  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08]
45  Oblivion WarCry.esp  [Version 1.09]
46  MidasSpells.esp
47  DLCHorseArmor.esp
48  castleofnight.esp
49  HoarfrostCastle.esp
4A  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
4B  DLCFrostcrag.esp
4C  DLCOrrery.esp
4D  DLCSpellTomes.esp
4E  Knights.esp
4F  Solace.esp
50  DLCThievesDen.esp
51  DLCVileLair.esp
52  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
53  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

[Fonger]

obvious cause

 

2 mods that require Shivering Isles (indicated by their names)

 

and you have SI loading VERY late

 

you have severe load order problems

 

run your load order through BOSS (found on tesnexus)

[gaivrn]

  On 8/13/2010 at 12:52 AM, Fonger said:

obvious cause

 

2 mods that require Shivering Isles (indicated by their names)

 

and you have SI loading VERY late

 

you have severe load order problems

 

run your load order through BOSS (found on tesnexus)

 

I have took you advice and made things a lot better. I downloaded BOSS rearranged some stuff, and did what it suggests. However the problem still persists, instead of crashing upon startup it crashes after the Bethesda. Here is what I have so far, please help thank you.

 

 

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Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]
02  Francesco's leveled creatures-items mod.esm  [Version 3.3d]
03  Francesco's optional new items add-on.esm  [Version 3.3d]
04  Francesco's optional new creatures add-on.esm  [Version 3.3d]
05  npc with jobs.esm
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm
07  CM Partners.esm
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  MOBS.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0B  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0C  MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0D  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0E  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
0F  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
10  Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
11  Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.esp
12  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp
13  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
14  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
15  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
16  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
17  All Natural - Natural Weather.esp  [Version 0.9.6]
18  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
19  IlluminationWithin.esp
1A  IWR-Lights.esp
1B  IWR-Windows.esp
1C  IWR-Shutters.esp
1D  IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
1E  IlluminationWithout.esp
1F  Travel a.esp
20  Travel b.esp
21  Travel c.esp
22  Travel d.esp
23  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
24  NWJtamriel.esp
25  NpcwithJobsCreatures.esp
26  Crowded Cities 15.esp
27  Crowded Cities 30.esp
28  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]
29  Crowded Roads 7.esp
2A  Crowded Roads 15.esp
2B  Crowded Roads 23.esp
2C  travellers-new balance.esp
2D  DLCHorseArmor.esp
2E  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2F  DLCOrrery.esp
30  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
31  DLCVileLair.esp
32  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
33  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
34  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
35  DLCSpellTomes.esp
36  KatanasMod.esp
37  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
38  DLCThievesDen.esp
39  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
3A  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
3B  Francesco's optional files.esp
3C  Oblivion WarCry.esp  [Version 1.09]
3D  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08]
3E  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]
3F  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
40  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]
41  Mart's Monster Mod.esp
42  Mart's Monster Mod for Francescos.esp
43  CurseOfHircine.esp
44  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
45  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
46  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
47  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
48  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
49  Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp
4A  Mart's Monster Mod - Increased Spawn Rates.esp
4B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
4C  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
4D  WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp
4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp
4F  NWJtamriel4MMM.esp
50  NpcwithJobsCreatures4MMM.esp
51  castleofnight.esp
52  JolardHome.esp
53  Solace.esp
54  Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp
55  DLCFrostcrag.esp
56  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
57  Knights.esp
58  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
59  HoarfrostCastle.esp
5A  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
5B  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.0.1]
5C  bartholm.esp
5D  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
5E  cidnothumpMMversion.esp
5F  MidasSpells.esp
60  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
61  cidnothump.esp
62  BadderFireFX.esp
63  BadderFrostFX.esp
64  BadderShockFX.esp
65  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[TodaY]

Crash on setup is often caused by a mod with a missing master. I suggest you open up wrye and scroll through your list of mods to see if any of them has a red square - which indicates a missing master.

If you find that, you have solved your problem.

If there aren't any red squares, try unistalling your latest installed mods one by one. I know that seems a lot of work, but it is probably the only solution.

I am now scrolling through your updated LO, ill edit if I find any problems.

 

Edit:

1. You are using 2 to 5 natural weather esps that do exactly the same thing. It has been a long time since I played that mod, but I know for a fact you shouldn't use all esps (what do people have against reading readme's?)

2. You are using both All Natural and Natural Weather.

 

I couldn't find any other problems, but then again I don't know half your mods. I strongly suggest you read readme's - seriously.

[LFact]

  On 8/13/2010 at 12:52 AM, Fonger said:

2 mods that require Shivering Isles (indicated by their names)

 

and you have SI loading VERY late

 

Doesn't matter unless SI requiring mods have DLCShiveringIsles.esp in their master list. SI plugin is actually dummy plugin for loading resources.

[Davesmason]

You're using both Crowded Cities 15 and Crowded Cities 30 - Same for Crowded roads - The mod states that you should only use one of them, either 15 or 30. (30 gives some more people, 15 gives lots more people) Try taking out one of the crowded cities and one of the crowded roads.

[gaivrn]

Ok I did what everyone advised... however I'm still not sure which crowded roads has most npcs in it. It still doesn;t work.. Wyre Bash has no red squares, the ones with them are unchecked already. everything is a green box, some mods are green highlighted others are blue. The game still crashes, is there nothing else I can do?

 

My Current List.

 

 

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Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]
02  Francesco's leveled creatures-items mod.esm  [Version 3.3d]
03  Francesco's optional new items add-on.esm  [Version 3.3d]
04  Francesco's optional new creatures add-on.esm  [Version 3.3d]
05  npc with jobs.esm
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
07  CM Partners.esm
08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  MOBS.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0B  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0C  MOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0D  MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.2.2a]
0E  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
0F  Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
10  Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.3_coloroverride.esp.esp
11  Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tae_CO_RD.esp
12  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
13  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
14  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
15  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
16  IlluminationWithin.esp
17  IWR-Lights.esp
18  IWR-Windows.esp
19  IWR-Shutters.esp
1A  IWR - Windows Lights Shutters - Optimised.esp
1B  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
1C  NWJtamriel.esp
1D  NpcwithJobsCreatures.esp
1E  Crowded Cities 15.esp
1F  Crowded Roads 7.esp
20  travellers-new balance.esp
21  DLCHorseArmor.esp
22  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
23  DLCOrrery.esp
24  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
25  DLCVileLair.esp
26  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
27  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
28  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
29  DLCSpellTomes.esp
2A  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
2B  KatanasMod.esp
2C  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
2D  DLCThievesDen.esp
2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
30  Francesco's optional files.esp
31  Oblivion WarCry.esp  [Version 1.09]
32  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08]
33  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]
34  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
35  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]
36  Mart's Monster Mod.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
37  Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
38  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
39  CurseOfHircine.esp
3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp  [Version 3.7b3p]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
40  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Moderate Increased.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Increased.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
44  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
45  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
46  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
47  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
48  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
49  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
4A  WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp
4B  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
4C  NWJtamriel4MMM.esp
4D  NpcwithJobsCreatures4MMM.esp
4E  castleofnight.esp
4F  JolardHome.esp
50  Solace.esp
51  Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp
52  DLCFrostcrag.esp
53  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
54  Knights.esp
55  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
56  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
57  HoarfrostCastle.esp
58  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
59  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.0.1]
5A  bartholm.esp
5B  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
5C  cidnothumpMMversion.esp
5D  MidasSpells.esp
5E  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
5F  cidnothump.esp
60  BadderFireFX.esp
61  BadderFrostFX.esp
62  BadderShockFX.esp
63  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
64  IlluminationWithout.esp
65  Travel a.esp
66  Travel b.esp
67  Travel c.esp
68  Travel d.esp
69  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]

 

 

I actually took out the Natural mod and decreased All Natural esps Also. having trying that it didn;t work So i put them back on.