Is America becoming Socialist ?

[Balagor]

God, they need to make me president.

 

step 1: HUGE tax on stuff coming in from China

step 2: finish up all military engagements and recall troops

step 3: gigantic cleanup of American government programs

 

 

For everyone else it goes.

 

step 1: Fool people into thinking I know what I am doing.

step 2: Make insane promises I cannot keep but sound really good.

step 3: Pass BS laws that get me reelected but ruin the country five years later

step 4: Sit on solid gold toilet seats and drive a Cadillac, courtesy of American taxpayers

 

 

I am a conservative, and this thread seems populated with a s*** load of liberals.

I would probably end up making up my own political party, but I consider myself a Republican (Can't wait till I can vote)

 

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Step 1 is a problem. Taxing Chineese goods, will leave US with absolutely no electronics at all.

Step 2 is a problem too, since it will raise unemployment with about 15 %

Step 3 is possible

 

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Should all be possible, except for perhaps Step 4.

You are right. Socialism is for socialists, and perhaps liberty is for liberals. :thumbsup:

[JimboUK]

corrupt? what like the NHS? all the higher ups and consultants giving themselves bonuses. WTF does anyone body need a 400k bonus for?

 

they are all hitting the bonus button. And as been pointed out... they can't even run it efficiently..buying a screw for 300quid.. bonuses. pfft.

 

Sort it out

 

This is typical of any state run organisation, there is no incentive to control costs because they can always come back to the taxpayer for more. This is why our nationalised industries failed, even without the strikes they just weren't viable as businesses and couldn't survive without the taxpayer.

[Burnagirl]

You are right. Socialism is for socialists, and perhaps liberty is for liberals. :thumbsup:

 

Liberty is for Liberals ? ... c'mon Balagor ... liberty means freedom ... freedom of choice, free to live without restriction to another's dictates ... this is what America was built on ... freedom.

Liberalism on the other hand is bondage >>> to minorities whose weapon is guilt trips and left wing radicalism, socialism, marxism, communism and any and every other ism.

Liberalism is conformity ... it's the death bane of freedom because ultimately they will make some rule or law to protect someone else at your expense of freedom.

Sure I'm going to pick up flak because of this but check the facts, it's someones freedom at someone elses expense.

Labor (in the UK), promised Britain the earth but just grabbed more power away from the common man and as I read somewhere more civil liberties went down the toilet than ever before ... you see when it

comes to the left, freedom as they see it simply means the exact opposite ... and as they say in the States, "that dog wont bark" ...

 

Btw, the American health care system is run by industry and there is simply no way that they will ever let government "krap in hulle slaai", as we would say ... (mess around in their salad - loose translation).

Mr Obama can try his luck but he will fail just like all the others before him ...

 

My take is that America will "try" a bit of socialism but they wont get very far, unless a new "people's party" arises in that nation ... and I have no idea as to whether or not that will take place ... but whoever does

attempt to turn the States into a socialist nation is defintely going to have a very serious fight on their hands ... common sense (which isnt so common) will prevail with a little help from Capitalism and sink that

idea quicker than the Titanic ...

 

Death to liberalism ... viva real freedom !!!

 

If you cant say amen then say ouch ...

[evilneko]

Death to liberalism ... viva real freedom !!!

 

If you cant say amen then say ouch ...

 

I can't say amen, because your definition of liberalism is apparently quite twisted and biased.

 

The left wing in America is just as much about freedom--if not more--as the right. In fact, lately, it's been the right that's been about conformity and bondage. All one need do to see this is just take a look at the issues. You obviously haven't.

 

And what none of you seem to be understanding is that even with the health care reform bill passed, medicine in America is not, and will not be, socialized.

[Burnagirl]

Death to liberalism ... viva real freedom !!!

 

If you cant say amen then say ouch ...

 

I can't say amen, because your definition of liberalism is apparently quite twisted and biased.

 

The left wing in America is just as much about freedom--if not more--as the right. In fact, lately, it's been the right that's been about conformity and bondage. All one need do to see this is just take a look at the issues. You obviously haven't.

 

 

 

You are welcome to your opinion's about mine ... that's real freedom isnt it ... where we can agree to disagree.

 

But what's really twisted though is the ability to kill babies, murder them through abortion all in the name of "freedom" yet kick and scream when a guy runs across the ice and smashes a baby seals head in ... that's liberalism ... it's twisting

what's really important into something of no value ... and it's branded freedom ... but sure that's freedom ... if you like that kind of thing.

It's taking the natural order of things and juggling them around and hoping that we're going to get the same successful results your forefathers did ... and when that doesnt happen, blame someone.

I'm tired of bunny-huggers who want to "save" the world, the whales and the three-eyed dogs of the universe called jigsaw, who prance naked through the woods and hold hands with their spirit guides when all they really do is

cost the tax-payer more money.

 

Liberals cost the man in the street money ... I mean what's the deal with now making a third restroom (toilet or bathroom) available in America just in case a transexual comes to the restaurant ... what cr*p !!!

What about forcing doctors to give abortions when they dont want to ? ... which is all just a big money making business anyway.

Yeah, it's freedom, our style, liberal style.

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I've been as left as anyone ... hugged the bunnies, kissed the toads, ravished the maidens (say no more), milked the cows, screamed for liberation for the oppressed ignoring jail and beatings, befriended the outcasts, did weird sh*t in the woods

prayed to idols, demons and the devil himself, joined cults the whole trip ... blah blah blah ... did I leave any liberal thing off my list ... oh, yes, smoked more dope than you've had hot breakfasts and clasped hands with the commie, marxist, and every other "ist".

but it was empty ... no value for my money.

 

Ok, jump me now ... naughty little conservative that I am ... how dare I ...

 

Liberalism is always about conformity and never about freedom, it's about getting away with stuff at other peoples expense ... look if you're going to take a stand (like I'm doing), go for it whole hog, get branded whatever, it's ok, but dont be a wimp.

 

But it is good to know that medicine won't be socialised ... of course not, the medicine manufacturers of the world aren't in it for love, "we want your money".

 

Nothing personal evilneko, it was mostly done tongue in cheek and generalised ... don't you like a challenge ?

[grannywils]

Burnagirl, I've already sworn off of this thread. But I have to tell you, I largely disagree with your politics, but girl I love your style! You are pure poetry, and you make a lot of sense, even when I do disagree with you.

[ginnyfizz]

Hallelujah, Burnagirl! S'OK, they regularly try and brand me (usually as thick because to be a conservative apparently you have to be)and burn me at the stake (although that may be something to do with the pale skin and pointed eye teeth). But I keep coming back!

 

*Hands Burnagirl a kudos and a fireblanket...*

[Burnagirl]

Hallelujah, Burnagirl! S'OK, they regularly try and brand me (usually as thick because to be a conservative apparently you have to be)and burn me at the stake (although that may be something to do with the pale skin and pointed eye teeth). But I keep coming back!

 

*Hands Burnagirl a kudos and a fireblanket...*

 

 

Well the next time they pay you a visit tell them to erect another stake cause you're not going to burn alone ...btw, thanks for the kudos ... muchos gracias :thumbsup:

[billypnats]

dont say socialism like its bad :(

 

but really... all we need to do is cut back the $ on the bombs being made.. that'lll compensate for the health bill and more I bet

[monkybuttface]

Ok

 

first: placing a large tax on goods from China (and a few other countries) would force such things to be made HERE. Creating a lot of jobs and likely bankrupting China when they cannot get the money we owe them.

Also, how would unemployment rise? They would be back on base, not out of the military, and many would go get a job, it would cut a good 10% out of government spending.

 

second: Burnagirl is awesome

 

third: I would love to go on a rant about how liberalism sucks, but I really don't feel fired up right now. however I heard about how a Christian hospital was forced to cover up a picture of Jesus in the chapel because it was "politically incorrect" What side do you think that came from? (points to left) If you are offended DON'T GO INTO THE CHAPEL!!!!!!

The abortion industry is pretty much the American Holocaust, ruthless slaughter of people who have no voice with which to cry out against their killers.

 

I have personally never seen a third bathroom, but i live in North Carolina, so I probably will not any time soon.

 

I feel like I'm letting people down here, but I do not have the spark right now, and next time there is a burning, call me, I will bring a .308 and a bucket of water.