Mur_Zik Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I'm having troubles with my mods being modified/uploaded here at nexus without my permission and (sometimes) without credits again and again. The admin party seems to be very busy or tired of my PMes so they do just ignore them. If anybody had such problems and has an idea how to deal with those reply please. Mur_Zik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehBuddha Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Have you tried the 'report file' button instead of sending pms...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFG99 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I haven't had any such problems (my mods are not popular enough to be stolen, heh :) ). That said, before I started writing any mods I was willing to accept that no matter what I did, there was a good chance they would be stolen by someone. There is unfortunately an unscrupulous element in the modding community, just as there is in any other community. That said, you do have a few things that you can do. First, advertise who stole your work without your permission on boards such as this one. Embarrass them publicly. The majority of the community will support you and stop using the mods of the person who did the stealing.Second, if the admins of one of the major TES sites will not respond to your inquiries, you could always remove your mods from that site, posting them only to sites whos admins are more supportive.Third, if you're a scripter, you could hide notes in your code that identify you as the author. Less savvy code stealers will not notice those comments and will copy the notes into their mods.Finally, if all else fails, you could distribute your mods by request only - that is, only grant access of your mods to people who do not have a reputation for stealing. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziitch Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 The question is this: what is it that you haven't done that they want to keep modifying it for? Sometimes you've got to remember to keep creator-member relationships mutual in some sense - as seen many times before, mods are rarely "complete" when released, as when time passes, better mods might come out, systems that use something related to your mod that people try changing it to use that system, and then there's the usual requests for "additional options" or for "a patch to make it work with this mod" that nearly any mod is vulnerable to. Sure, you can deny that you'll do it for them, but in a sense that tends to cause your situation - people who upload a modified version of your mod that's adapted for something, but don't have your permission for it. Of course, if you've got power and is someone who doesn't like things done to your mod, sometimes that problem doesn't "happen", because as soon as you find out you'll chew them out for it, or else... But then, I think you kind of close out the potential of people who'd made good mashups with retextures, but can't share them with people publicly thanks to your standing on your mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pronam Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Embarrassing publicly is usually just not a good idea here as the admins would simply see as slander/bashing/fights/rants on the forums.I know bits of this problem and Mur_Zik had a lot of trouble with people either rudely commenting or simply reuploading his stuff while claiming credit and even accusing him of having stolen it himself. I can recall buddah proving wrongly once. I'd definitely use the report-button instead of PM as a report can be seen by every single one of them instead of just one. I think the admins are quite aware of the problem but they receive a lot of PM they can easily miss out a thing. The issue is that people put their time and dedication into their work and people simple ripping their stuff just make it look like you've wasted time for their credit. It's not about incompletion here, it's about people falsely claiming it's incomplete, made by the original modder and then they'll repackage it or reupload it while you asked not to do so and put their own name below it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mur_Zik Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 (edited) Many thanks for your replies. TehBuddha I do report them. Last was this onehttp://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34232as you can see it's just hidden not deleted what means... BFG99 I"m talking about the precedent - if you once find your work uploaded here (slightly modified) by another uploader/author - how will you act? Especially if admins tell you: "You must prove they have no your permission" on it? LOL how can I prove it? Sorry I'll continue tomorrow as it's 5am already... Edited September 19, 2010 by Mur_Zik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddah Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Many thanks for your replies. TehBuddha I do report them. Last was this onehttp://www.tesnexus....le.php?id=34232as you can see it's just hidden not deleted what means... BFG99 I"m talking about the precedent - if you once find your work uploaded here (slightly modified) by another uploader/author - how will you act? Especially if admins tell you: "You must prove they have no your permission" on it? LOL how can I prove it? Sorry I'll continue tomorrow as it's 5am already... Admin Note: Why not tell the whole story: http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/232450-bbb-for-umpa-and-mur-zik-sexywalks-endorsements/page__view__findpost__p__2061466 He has removed your work, and the matter is ended. As the upload contained materiel other than your work the uploader was given the chance to either get permission from you or remove your content,,,,he chose to delete your content. This has been verified and the file is again visible. Buddah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mur_Zik Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 ...and since my English is rather poor and (looks like) nobody had such a trouble except myself I'll try to be brief. 1. I don't have anything against re-making of my work(especially if it has positive results) more over I do welcome this as far as all modding activities are based on *something* was already made by Beth. So if uploading my work here or elsewhere for free I'm assuming the idea: "I've made it, seems not very bad, please get it and have fun as I had fun making this. And thx Bethesda and just give a credit if using my work". Well after the first thievery(I do mean my animation uploaded *as is* by another user without any quotes) I've made some corrections to readme file insisting on "ask for my permission" seems no result though... I'm against a thievery actually. 2. ->The majority of the community will support you and stop using the mods of the person who did the stealingAccording to my experience, the *community* doesn't care about this. And they should not imho as it's a business of admins otherwise this site has to change some of it's *terms&rules*. 3. Removing my mods from Tesnexus? I thought about it but came to conclusion this would be nice for the thrieves. I'm not a scriptwriter unfortunately I'm just an animator lol so I don't know how to hide the notes in the code. Actually I do not really know what's the "code". 4. Perhaps Pronam is quite right and the issue is inside people themselves... Oh perhaps not... Buddah No thanks lol I was happy to remind you about that; admins do react quickly if they do wish.Though I wonder why despite "Don't upload work that is not your own, next time you get the door." the file is active. Where is Luxiloid and who was him actually? Regarding the the *whole* story I could tell it here. Do you wish this? Sorry I'll continue tomorrow as it's 4.30am already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brasher Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Mods are given to the public as a gift for all to enjoy. When I upload things, I know that they are no longer under my complete control. I expect that they will be stolen and modded and distributed without my knowledge. So I beat people to the punch. I release my works as public domain with proper attribution and courtesy notification. They can't steal it because it is free. I don't get bent out of shape about the attribution and notification part. If someone likes my work well enough to steal it, then I am flattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mur_Zik Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) As buddah seems to wish *remain silent, and have the world assume you are a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt*, could I acquire anybody who do knows Luxiloid and why his mod was re-uploaded by another user to tell me the story? Not sure if this would be much appreciated by buddah&co though...P.S. I'm about to tell. Here and there. And I don't care about ban as you do have your pay due to the people like me. Edited October 4, 2010 by Mur_Zik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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