TOP 100 LOAD LIST

[ChuckFlash]

First let me say that Nexus is the Premier site for finding info an mods!!!!! I love it!!!!

 

But after trying to read so many opinions about the best mod load order, how to make a crash free load order, ect ect.....

It occurred to me that a lot of time spent searching for info, could be better spent playing the game!!!!

 

If we only had a Load Order page where we could go an get the current best working load order for the top 100 mods!!

That would at least provide us a Starting Point, which we could work with.

 

This page could be maintained by a few of the Most Experienced working with Mods, as well as the author of each mod in the Top 100, so that the mods load would work with out problems!!!

This would give all a basic work from template that could be changed or added to as new mods make it into the Top 100 list. Which would allow modders to make their mod to be 100% compatible via the list.

 

Maybe this could soon grow to be the Top 150, 250, or even higher load list using combining?

 

It could also provide a feedback from users to alert both the team an mod builders, regarding any bugs or implementation problems, specific to this load order.

This would help insure that the latest info an updates information or any special instructions for mod install, could be easily updated and found here.

 

I think that this would help at least 80-90% of the users on the site, the other 10-20% DON'T NEED NO HELP, as they are the ones who would be maintaining the TOP 100 LOAD ORDER!!!!!!

 

Please let me know what you think, or better yet let the Site Admins know.......Thanks for your input......

[LHammonds]

eh...isn't that what BOSS and related files do?

[ub3rman123]

A Sisyphus' mod list of sorts?

[ChuckFlash]

Yes, that is what BOSS an FOMM and FO3 are supposed to do.

But if you look thru the posts an forums, seems like there is some problem there.

 

Guess what i really would like to see, is something like the mod update program for Torchlite.

Where you would go online an login, then it would auto load all mods with their updated versions, and RED out incompatible mods based on your current load.

YELLOW out mods with some conflicts based on your current load. (Offer links or info how to resolve or at least tell you which mods it conflicts with)

GREEN out mods you can add to your current load.

It would then give you download selection options, and then download an install the new mods where they belong in the load order.

 

THIS IS MY PERSONAL WISH.....Of course i don't believe in Genies...........But i do believe in programmers who may be motivated enough!!!!

 

There just has to be a better way!!!!

[LHammonds]

I don't think even a genius can program something like that. With OBMM, the color codes are still just "possible" problems and it may be just fine for you if one overrides another and in other cases the conflict may cause actual problems in-game. I don't think it is humanly possible to pick any mod on the Nexus and keep a compatibility list 100% updated based on all the other mods uploaded at TESNexus...unless those mods simply do not cause any sort of compatibility issues and thus do not conflict with anything.

 

What I think would be awesome but would require a coordinated effort on the part of a web developer, mod manager developer and mod authors is a system similar to WinCustomize...where you have a tool that allows people to put together "packages" or "themes" which may simply be just URLs and when you attempt to install the package/theme, it auto-downloads anything you are missing and auto-installs the mods. But this is a pipe dream and not likely to ever happen unless the game developers design their game to work this way and provide the tools upon release of the game...otherwise something this complicated can come a day late and a dollar short....meaning a release of such a system right now for Oblivion would be somewhat of a nightmare because of all the "legacy" mods that have been designed and uploaded using a different system.

 

LHammonds

[Eiries]

There are currently over 21,000 mods uploaded on the TES Nexus alone. Keeping tabs on all of them would be an astronomically difficult endeavor. BOSS does a pretty good job keeping track of important ones.

 

The color coding you described is very similar to what Wrye Bash already does.

 

I'd go further, but LHammonds already did for me. :wink:

[Povuholo]

Installing mods takes some time and effort, that's not going to change. We're lucky to have something like BOSS already. :yes:

[ChuckFlash]

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR GREAT INPUT, now i don't feel so much like Robinson Crusoe looking for Friday!!!

 

BUT ALL SAID.......

There has to be a better way!!!!

 

I think the most frustrating an time consuming part of installing MODS is the fact that

you have to go back an forth between several programs in order to make a somewhat compatible mod order.

AND you have to do it all from inside your GAME FOLDER!!!

 

Instead of having to Use FOMM an FO3edit (BOSS) separately to Add, check for conflicts, or find the best load order.

 

It would be great to have a stand alone application that would not require putting your Mods into your Game,

before checking them out.

 

LIKE COMBINING FOMM (Mod List), FO3EDIT/BOSS (Conflict Filter), AND 7-ZIP or other PATCH MAKER,

all in one AND OUTSIDE YOUR GAME FOLDER!!!

 

It would allow you to drag an drop/or put your Mod Files into its Data Folder.

Where it would add the Mod to the LIST screen on the left, where you can move the mod up or down the list,

Turn the Mod on or off, or remove it (like Fomm).

 

ALSO like LHammonds says, it would have a MOD UPDATE FUNCTION,

which could take you to the mod website/Nexus? an download any updates or files missing.

 

With each change, As you Add Mods to the list or change your load order in the list, or turn the mod on or off.

It would update a colored conflict screen on the right, showing your Total Mod List (like FO3edit/BOSS).

 

Whereby as you move any mod up or down the list, the colors will change until

you come to the best load order for your MODS, visualized by the colors on the right screen.

 

It would then Offer you the Option of Loading all the Mods into your GAME (each as seperate mod),

or creating a single Mod Patch File (Of all included Mods) for installing or saving as backup,

with it's own UN-installer (for a clean mod uninstall).

 

What would we call it?

How about THE MODDERS RUBIX CUBE?

[ChuckFlash]

WHY NOT?

 

SO WHY WE CANNOT HAVE SIMILAR AS BELOW EXAMPLES FOR FALLOUT 3?

 

Working MOD MANAGERS for other games!!!

 

WowMatrix saves you hours of time. No more wasting time manually checking WoW AddOn websites and downloading AddOns!

Each day before starting your game, just fire up WowMatrix and let it update your WoW AddOns quickly and safely.

WowMatrix is 100% FREE, runs beautifully on Mac OS X, Linux and Windows, and is completely safe to use with no harmful components

such as keyloggers or spyware.

Download and install WoW AddOns directly from within WowMatrix, without visiting a single website or unzipping a single file!

Find out which of your WoW AddOns need updating, and then update them with a single click!

immediately recognizes any WoW AddOns you may have installed before using WowMatrix and helps you keep them up-to-date!

Instantly un-install any WoW AddOn that you no longer need!

Automatically updates itself, not just WoW AddOns!

More WoW AddOns are added and supported daily!

 

Torch Leech

A free mod manager for Torchlight from Runic Games (inspired by WoWMatrix).

The tool helps to manage your mods and provide a rich online database with tons of mods and information about authors, versions,

package sizes, preview screenshots and more or less large descriptions (RTF). You can de-/install new mods or update all installed

mods without to take care of clearing the mod cache. The conflict check and backup automatism protect you from the most common game

crashes/problems.

 

Features

Detailed information

All mods are listed with author, version, size, short and a description.

Easiest de-/install & update of your mods

Click on a button.

Disable/enable mods

No need to deinstall and reinstall mods every time. Just deactivate your mods if you want to start the game without them sometimes.

Change load priorities

Change the load priorities and be able to solve common mod conflicts.

Categorizing, sorting & (fuzzy) searching

Group all mods by categories, sort them by all columns or just type in a part of the name/description to find and crawl through tons of mods.

Automatic conflict detection

Check for conflicts like same filenames, missed/duplicated GUIDs or wrong encoding in few seconds.

Automatic backup of savegames & mods

Perform automatic backups of your mods and savegames. No data or time loss due broken savegames anymore.

Automatic cache clearing

The mod cache will be cleared automatically on different tasks.

Integrated setting editor (+ key bindings)

Full and rich editor for hidden configuration parameters and key bindings. Setup your own action keys.

Integrated browser for community sites

Delete your bookmarks - just selected the mod and you can switch between common community sites and entries for this mod.

Support for user-defined repositories

You want to distribute your own mod list? It's possible!

Multilanguage support

Check out the translations and help us to improve them.

Savegame analyzing (SVTInfo)

Analyze your savegames and get as much information as possible (name, gold, level, fame, pet, cheat flag, difficulty ...).

Compatible with all Torchlight versions

Works with all versions of Torchlight.

No installation, no requirements

Download, extract and start it!

Runs with Windows XP/Vista/7

Full compatible with Windows XP/Vista/7.

 

 

SEEMS to me, it they can do it WHY CAN'T WE?

 

If the Community and major Mod Groups like FWE, FOOK, MMM, EVE, WMK, and NEXUS, ect, would get together an share resources,

AND there was an effort to get all the Users to help and support it.

 

MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, WE COULD ALL ENJOY THE RESULTS............Remember, Nothing is Impossible if you can think of it!!! Only things you cannot think of is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

[LHammonds]

Even if such a system existed today, the age-old advice about installing only one mod at a time would still ring true. Things can get really hairy when you install and update 20+ mods and then jump in the game to see what happens...even if you had a system that installed everything correctly, it could still spell disaster.