flyingsandwich Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 First up, here's my load order: Oblivion.esmOpen Cities Resources.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmHarvest[Containers].esmUnnecessaryViolence.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espLet There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.espLet There Be Darkness - Knights.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espUnnecessaryViolence.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espOpen Cities New Sheoth.espOpen Cities Outer Districts.espOpen Cities Full.espOpen Cities Full + Bravil Blood&Mud.espOpen Cities Classic Road Record.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod for OOO.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espKnights.esp I've been working on this all day, and I'm getting nowhere. First thing I did after downloading/extracting all these was run BOSS, and it put everything in an order that didn't work. So I've been using guides and tweaking it, and it just doesn't start. Is it the load order, or am I trying to run incompatible mods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiries Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Well, I always have SI towards the top of my list... guess that's just me. I'm noticing a severe lack of Blood&Mud, so Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood&Mud.esp probably doesn't need to run. Actually, that might be your issue. You probably either run Open Cities Full.esp or Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood&Mud.esp; running them both together would probably generate something akin to a quick CTD. Disable Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood&Mud.esp and see what happens. Apologies if I'm off; I don't use too many overhaul-esque mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo553 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 You propably shouldn't have unnecessary violence and deadly reflex loaded at the same time. Also, the UOP Vampire Aging Face Fix can be tweaked into the bashed patch, so really no need for that to be loaded either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsandwich Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 Okay, new load order, based on your replies and the replies from another forum. Still not working. Oblivion.esmOpen Cities Resources.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmUnnecessaryViolence.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.espOpen Cities New Sheoth.espOpen Cities Outer Districts.espOpen Cities Full.espOpen Cities Classic Road Record.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espOblivion XP.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.espMart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.espMart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.espKnights.espLet There Be Darkness - Knights.espUnnecessaryViolence.espBashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 HorseCombatMaster.esm should be the last ESM loaded. Other than that nothing looks out of place. I suggest removing all mods and trying "Vanilla" Oblivion. Vanilla simply means no mods added, as is out of the box, but with patches of course. See if that works. If the game runs without any mods added then you know it's got something to do with the mods. If it still doesn't run without any mods it's either hardware related or a bad install. Post a DXDIAG so we can get some information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsandwich Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 Yeah, the game runs without any mods. I think I've narrowed it down to Open Cities, and MMM. If I disable those two, it runs. If either of them are active, it CTD immediately. Compatibility issue?Oh, I don't know if this'll help, but Wrye Bash says that an element of MMM (can't remember which one at the moment, but it's not on that list and it has 'OOO' in its name) won't work because it's missing a master file. That would be the OOO esm that isn't present, wouldn't it? But OOO itself seems to work just fine without it. ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 10/17/2010, 23:52:14 Machine name: ZALGO Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.100608-0458) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion System Model: NY684AA-ABG m9780a BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/04/09 16:49:08 Ver: 5.05 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.3GHz Memory: 6142MB RAM Page File: 1977MB used, 10417MB available Windows Dir: C:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 10 DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 64bit Unicode Uh...is that all you need? PS: I moved HorseCombatMaster.esm to the bottom (of the .esm files, of course). No change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 If you have the latest version of Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul, then you are missing the master file, and that is why the game is crashing. Would you post your mod list via Wrye Bash, please? And make sure your paste EVERYTHING, including the Spoiler and Code boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiries Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Unnecessary Violence and Deadly Reflexes work together just fine. Just thought I'd clarify that. Also, your machine seems to have a bad case of Za͉͇͓̤̹̠͇͓̟̣̰̍̏̉̂̾ͩ̅̐̄̔͘͢͞͝lgo. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 The main things I wanted to see was CPU, RAM, and GPU. I was just ruling out the unsupported onboard video card. So you covered everything except the GPU. But if it's running without mods then I'm going to assume you have a capable card. I still wouldn't mind confirmation. As Hickory said though, post your current LO from Wrye Bash. Mods tab > Right click Load Order header > List Mods. Copypasta all of that here. If the game runs fine without mods you'll just have to narrow down which mods causes the crash. Add them to your game one by one and see how it goes. Still post your LO though, we might be able to identify the problem right off the bat, as Hickory has attempted already. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 since you are using the UOP and the USIP is there any particular reason you are not using the Unofficial Official Mods patch (knights ain't patched) BTW run your load order through BOSS (as found on tesnexus) the order you've posted in the first and forth post clearly weren't sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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