Game not loading at all

[flyingsandwich]

I'll recount what I did to install OOO.

- Downloaded OOO 1.3.exe and 1.31.exe

- Ran the .exe for 1.3, then 1.31

- ...that's about it. Should it have put an .esm in as well?

 

I think I've narrowed it down to Open Cities and MMM. If any .esp from either of those two mods is active, it won't start.

 

My GPU is...a little embarassing these days, but it can still run Oblivion just fine. GeForce GT 220.

 

Just ran it through BOSS again (I've done it before, but everyone else seemed to disagree with the order it put them in, so I rearranged it), here's something I forgot to mention: It says that it didn't detect OOO. It recognises and reorders everything else, but it always sticks OOO at the bottom.

 

since you are using the UOP and the USIP is there any particular reason you are not using the Unofficial Official Mods patch (knights ain't patched)

Yes, yes there is. And that reason is...I forgot about it. I'll download it now.

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.5.3]
02  HorseCombatMaster.esm
03  Mart's Monster Mod.esm
04  UnnecessaryViolence.esm
05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
06  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
07  Knights.esp
08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
09  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
0A  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp
----> MISSING MASTER: Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
0B  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
0C  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
0D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
0E  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
0F  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
10  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
11  UnnecessaryViolence.esp
12  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.1]
13  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 3.5.4]
14  Open Cities Full.esp  [Version 3.5.4]
15  Open Cities Classic Road Record.esp
16  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]
17  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
18  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp
----> MISSING MASTER: Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
19  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
1A  Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
1B  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
1C  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
1D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
1E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

 

Those are all the mods that I want to get working. I haven't touched this order after running BOSS.

[Fonger]

You seem to have OOO's esp loaded at the bottom

 

but you are missing OOO's esm

 

like you forgot to download that part of OOO

[flyingsandwich]

Yeah, BOSS just put it there.

 

After I posted my last reply, I downloaded the OOO 1.32 update (installer version). When I ran that, it put the .esm in, and...it's running now. I'm going to start a new game and play for a while, and see how it goes.

 

EDIT: We're not allowed to swear on here, are we? It now crashes at the loading screen. I'm going to disable the ones that Wrye Bash highlights red, see what happens.

 

SECOND EDIT: The mods that are highlighted red are Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp, and Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp. This makes no sense to me because I've got both of the master files right there. But MMM is an old version, I've just realised, so I'm downloading the latest update now.

[flyingsandwich]

New list, after updating OOO and MMM.

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.5.3]
02  HorseCombatMaster.esm
03  Mart's Monster Mod.esm
04  UnnecessaryViolence.esm
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
06  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
07  Knights.esp
08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
09  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
0B  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
0C  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.1Mart]
0D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
0E  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
0F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
10  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
11  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
12  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
13  UnnecessaryViolence.esp
14  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.1]
15  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 3.5.4]
16  Open Cities Full.esp  [Version 3.5.4]
17  Open Cities Classic Road Record.esp
18  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]
19  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
1A  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
1B  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
1C  Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
1D  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
1E  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
1F  Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
20  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp
21  Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
22  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

 

 

Those two OOO-reliant MMM mods still think that it's not there, and it still crashes at the loading screen (even if I disable those two).

 

I just checked. It crashes at the loading screen no matter what I've got running now. Even just Vanilla Oblivion. Meaning that I may have solved the mods problem, and now I have an entirely new one.

[Hickory]

Make sure that you don't have 'Lock Files' selected in Wrye Bash, because BOSS is not reordering your mods correctly -- MMM is loading AFTER your Bashed Patch.

[BluHaze]

It's starting to sound like you have some kind of corruption going on there.

 

I would recommend backing up your saves, mods, and settings, then setting them aside for a moment. Do a completely clean reinstall of Oblivion, SI, official DLC, and official patches. Then see if the game will run alright after that, or if it still crashes. If the game does run without any problems at that point, then I would recommend installing your mods one at a time from there.

 

Start with the major mods like OOO, and see if it still runs without a hitch. If it does, then install another large mod like MMM and see if there's any problem. If there isn't, then go on to another large mod like Open Cities, and so on. Keep installing your mods one at a time, and checking the stability of the game after each installation, until either you have them all installed and things are working fine, or until you start having problems again.

[flyingsandwich]

I just checked, and BOSS isn't recognising OOO, Oblivion XP, or those MMM files that are being placed at the end. I don't know what the hell's going on with it.

Oh wait, yes I do. Okay, I've fixed that. New load order (which I had to rearrange myself anyway, because it was still placing some MMM things last, and doing stupid stuff like putting the SI unofficial patch AFTER SI itself):

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.5.3]
02  HorseCombatMaster.esm
03  Mart's Monster Mod.esm
04  UnnecessaryViolence.esm
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
06  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
08  Knights.esp
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
0B  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
0C  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.1Mart]
0D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp
0E  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp
0F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp
10  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
11  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
12  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
13  UnnecessaryViolence.esp
14  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.1]
15  Open Cities Outer Districts.esp  [Version 3.5.4]
16  Open Cities Full.esp  [Version 3.5.4]
17  Open Cities Classic Road Record.esp
18  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]
19  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
1A  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
1B  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp
1C  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
1D  Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp
1E  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
1F  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
20  Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
21  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp
22  Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp
23  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

This still crashes when loading.

 

 

It's starting to sound like you have some kind of corruption going on there.

 

I would recommend backing up your saves, mods, and settings, then setting them aside for a moment. Do a completely clean reinstall of Oblivion, SI, official DLC, and official patches. Then see if the game will run alright after that, or if it still crashes. If the game does run without any problems at that point, then I would recommend installing your mods one at a time from there.

 

Start with the major mods like OOO, and see if it still runs without a hitch. If it does, then install another large mod like MMM and see if there's any problem. If there isn't, then go on to another large mod like Open Cities, and so on. Keep installing your mods one at a time, and checking the stability of the game after each installation, until either you have them all installed and things are working fine, or until you start having problems again.

 

Okay, I'll start doing that. I suppose if I'd tried a phased conversion to start with instead of this direct cut-over, I wouldn't have had all these problems. Thanks.

 

 

EDIT: Okay, now I'm back to my original problem (sort of). Rather than not starting, like it did before, it actually crashes without loading. Meaning that it flashes black a couple of times, then I get the 'Oblivion has stopped working' dialogue. This happens even if I run any combination of Vanilla Oblivion, the DLCs, or any unofficial patches.

 

SECOND EDIT: I've got it running with the DLC, unofficial patches, OOO, and Open Cities. I'm content with that. Thanks for all your help.