AdamNeko Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 For all the plugins listed above, could you mayhaps stick them into the mwsource plugin also? 'cause for those of us with 56k, it will take WAY to long to dl all of them seperatley He has a point, it is difficult to DL plugins on a 56K dialup. I have no room to complain, as I've cable modem speeds at home and school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeLLL Posted October 23, 2003 Author Share Posted October 23, 2003 For all the plugins listed above, could you mayhaps stick them into the mwsource plugin also? 'cause for those of us with 56k, it will take WAY to long to dl all of them seperatleyHe has a point, it is difficult to DL plugins on a 56K dialup. I have no room to complain, as I've cable modem speeds at home and school. Well that would be a good idea BUT ASE 1 <the main file> is 16 Mb. Im getting Dialup on speed in the weekend <ADSL> so it want be a problem but would you be willing to download a 20-25Mb plugin?? I downlaoded all the ASEs on dialup <2,3,4 are quite small respectifull at 2-4 Mb TOPS> If it is requested it shall be done. HeLLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveme4whoiam Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 I suppose, but it will still take a while for a 56k to get a 25meg file (but it'll be worth it). How big are each of the plugins you've used? Some people may prefer to download those seperatly to the main mod, but it would probably be alot simpler for most of us to just download it all together in on big chunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Okay, this is just getting dumb... Why should everyone who wants the plugin have to download a 25 meg file that includes mods that they already have or simply don't want? Why should Helll have to deal with the legal issues, the admins hosting the sites have to waste 25 extra megs of bandwidth per download (Dark0ne will probably even protest to having this plugin increase in size and bandwidth consumption by 4000%), and an estimated 95% of the Morrowind community suffer through horrendous download times and have their intelligence insulted because the other 5% can't learn to follow a link and download a plugin seperately? I think that Helll will agree with me on this; it'd be much simpler to have a no-frills plugin and multiple plugins that add ASE sound emission points, MMM cell addition scripts, etc. to the areas added by the original plugin in the archive, then have users delete the extra plugins or merge it with the main file as they wish. However, I won't argue if Hell does decide to take a stance on this. So, what'll it be? A minor increase in convenience for the few at the expense of flexibility *cough*Microsoft*cough*, or an increase in both flexibility and convenience for the majority of an audience at the expense of not having a plugin suffering from a severe case of elephantaisis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Okay, here is the expansion map... Areas marked in red are the areas that I'm currently working on. Areas in green are the docks, where the exteriors are mostly completed, but the interiors are yet to be built. The area marked in white is where the portcullis and guard tower would be, if anybody has suggestions on how to make a portcullis work with a Hlaalu gate. If anybody spots any immediate conflicts, post them here. As you can see, somebody named Tommy has kindly added in a fight between Superman and a Sphere Centurion. Keep up the good work! And, er... Helll, did you get my e-mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamNeko Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Considering that I don't think anyone has really added much or tried to expand any of Suran overall, there shouldn't be any conflicts to my knowledge. That's gonna be pretty big too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 I haven't recieved the files yet, did you still want me to test it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeLLL Posted October 23, 2003 Author Share Posted October 23, 2003 Peregine yes i still want you to test it. Last couple days have been a killer at work. You can me on this. Tonight <NZST> I WILL SEND YOU 0.05 Marxist Im checking my emails as we speak. Ok maybe not. I remeber now that I set IP Cop to not allow users acess to hotmail. Mmm bummer. Plugin size and what ever EXPLANATION Ok Marxist; you share my views correctly. The plugins that I SUGGESTED you download is to increase the atmosphere of Suran Reborn. THEY ARE NOT NEEDED THERE ARE NO DEPENDICENIES ON THEM. But I HIGHLY recommend you use them. HIGHLY recomend. As In USE THEM :lol: . /rant finished back to normal The idea of having a barebones and then a all-in-one was to give all the under 15/16 a chance to experiance the mod without all the "naughty" bits in it. Ask Stampy or Switch I have a umm...."deviant" imagination. The barebones will include say 80% of the all-in-one. Why? Well the other 20% will include material I have deemed not apporpriate to include in the barebones plugin <there will be NO naked pple in the plugin. I mean naked orcs???!! :blink: > so you can choose wheter to see the creative genius of which is my imagination OR you can just downlaod the barebones and enjoy seeing yourself in there :) <as well as do the main quest :P>.You can play the barebones ("Orginal") to the full extent with out missing any of the MAIN story line. But if you downlaod the all-in-one ("HeLLLs Extended Cut") you will have alot more laughs and be better off for it. That was the main idea of having 2 plugins. The orginal and HeLLLs Extended Cut. YOU choose which one you want to download. So if you just want to play the plugin with out any of the juicy bits <there will be a mature restriction on HeLLLs Extended Cut> you can play the original. Problems with othere plugins/conflicts I no of potentially 2 plugins that I have tested and are NOT combatible. They are "Suran Estate" and "Bank Mod". Why Bank Mod? well you cna buy a house in Suran and things are gettin changed ALOT in this little town B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Oh my god. Ok people, I strongly suggest against downloading the "Extended Cut" as he calls it :P you do not want to know how far he'll go :blink: *Wonders what things he'll be exposed to in the process of beta testing HeLLL's mod* :blink: Should I write my will now? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Well, any house mod in Suran will conflict, that's probably something that we can be certain about. The only plugin that I'm keeping a serious watch on at this time is "Suran Underworld," which is somewhat popular and based in (guess) Suran. If anybody has said plugin, please explain any possible conflicts in detail. Additionally, if anybody thinks that they can make a realistic portcullis at the position illustrated and keep to Hlaalu (or Hlaalu-like) architecture), feel encouraged to create a seperate plugin that adds the portcullis and attach it to a post on this very thread. I will give you immortality as a sarcastic Dremora Lord and tell Helll's Donkey of Appreciation +3 to send a good word for you up the chain! And Helll, if you didn't get my mail, be sure to log into IM in about eleven hours. I'll add some not-quite-finishing touches on my areas and send you a cleaned and merged version of the plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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