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Just to let you all know, HeLLL has stepped down as head of the Suran Reborn project (I don't think he'll mind me telling you all this, since neither him nor Marxist post here anymore) and Marxist has taken over. He's pretty much changing the whole thing AFAIK. For more details, check the CoF Forums.
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...I know I said to expect that to be my last post -- sorry for not living up to this forum's expectations. The reasons behind my abrupt parting from and coming back to these forums are to remain obscured, but you are free to speculate. The possibilities include, but are not limited to the following:

  • Left stunned by anal probing upon alien spacecraft, took a while to come back to senses
  • Hacked by Kevin, and damn proud of it
  • Actually hacked by HeLLL, but saying it was a 1337 to avoid embarassment
  • Failed electroshock therapy

Clearing some things up about Suran Reborn:

 

Switch:

 

He's pretty much changing the whole thing AFAIK.

 

Frankly, I can count HeLLL's "accomplishments" in this plugin since my 0.05 addendum on one hand -- no, I am not circus folk, his work was limited to a suck Com-style tavern and very simple linkage to it from the main town, a blatantly copy-and-pasted dock, and a downright suck wallcurve with rescaled rocks serving as replacements for a proper endcap. If I've missed anything, blame Reborn87 -- on a side note, Reborn, expect this to be a quiet week. Just a few days before his "passing the torch," he asked me how to make an NPC not wander. I say good riddance.

 

wesaynthin:

 

I hope the mod survives HeLLL's leave, even if it won't be as good.

 

For the reasons stated above, I resent that statement and you for making it. If the plugin were left to HeLLL's plans... Well, let me give you a single quote that symbolizes HeLLL's ideas for Suran Reborn:

 

MSN Session:

 

[email protected]: Sorry, typing with a peanut in my hand.

43!!!: lol We just have Eta Penuts :) And guess what the mascot is a .... *wait for it wait for it*.... a penut :P

[email protected]: Oh, the bag I have has a huge, horny squirrel on it.

[email protected]: Part of the government's new "scared slim" program, I suppose.

43!!!: lmfao!!!

43!!!: waterfront defences

43!!!: ideas?

[email protected]: A ratty-looking lookout post.

43!!!: wtf?

[email protected]: It's the sodium.  Can't think straight.

43!!!: lol sweet as

43!!!: dwemer including them'

43!!!: ill send you a txt file with all my ideas <sometime tonight>

[email protected]: My idea for naval defense...

[email protected]: Let's give that AR a second chance here.

[email protected]: Have it supported by imp_foundations and dwrv_blocks....

43!!!: ok. Ill give it another lease of life.

[email protected]: Put in more guards and, if the objects exist, reinforce it on one side.

43!!!: yes yes. White paved roads? yay or nay?

[email protected]: Whoa.  Definite nay.

43!!!: shruken trees? yay or nah? <about the size of stone flowers>

[email protected]: How the hell are you going to do that?

43!!!: lol "s"

43!!!: Ok mini "cantons" <floating like zigrits in Warcraft III> yay or nay?

[email protected]: Zigrits?

43!!!: yea the undead bases

[email protected]: Er...  Don't think that would be possible.

43!!!: yea quite easily. Think mini "hanging gardens" SEPERATE of from Suran. I like to call them Defense bases

[email protected]: Nah...

43!!!: why?

[email protected]: Even at 0.50, a canton is still huge.

[email protected]: ...And if you attatch a script to set it smaller, it can too easily look "too small" and become a garden gnome.

43!!!: no no no it will be "like" a canton. That was to give an idea. It would be 1/5 of that size.

43!!!: <remake models etc>

[email protected]: Just doesn't seem like a good idea...  Thinking of using them as emplacements?

43!!!: kind off. More as mobile bases. Although they coould be used for emplacments. <what weapon you would use however is another matter>

43!!!: im just thrasing ideas so I have a clearer image of what I should be doing

[email protected]: ...Cow dung trebuchets.

 

...and that's when it gets weird.

 

As for status, Suran Reborn is going through a slightly slow period of administrative planning and preparations for a possible preview release to some modding communities, with Morrowind Source definetly being planned as a drop site. Stage 2 is still scrapped, and, though the initial reason for my agreeing with this was these forums' downright refusal to even take a single glance at a now-obsolete script to be used in Suran Reborn for error-tracing purposes, stage 2 is staying down because I want to maintain a degree of professionalism. I am also currently looking for a host with which to construct Suran Reborn's new webspace -- if all goes as planned, however, this would be temporary and Suran Reborn will be joining City of Fire as one of Morrowind Summit's subhosted sites.

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Didn't care to look at the script? What script... I do not believe one was made mention of. If it was, I missed it, but I would have liked to help out and look at it... I would still be willing too actually...

 

 

Wesaynothin:

 

I hope the mod survives HeLLL's leave, even if it won't be as good.

For the reasons stated above, I resent that statement and you for making it. If the plugin were left to HeLLL's plans... Well, let me give you a single quote that symbolizes HeLLL's ideas for Suran Reborn:

And how in the seven good hells was I too know that. You yourself helped build a perception that HeLLL was leading and doing a good job at the project..

 

But here I am, defending myself pitifully against a ghost to the forums. Ah well.

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Der scriptenleeches...

 

...Keep in mind that the script is now obsolete -- it has been replaced by a modular set of global scripts using a days passed global from Tribunal. To this date, the script has only been viewed three times, with two of those views from yours truly. The thread has been out there for over a month now with no replies, but just short of three dozen views.

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First, i was not whining. I was simply stating my initial pupose for agreeing when HeLLL decided to shut down stage 2 development. Secondly, I did not find a perfectly functional script in Tribunal -- I found a global variable in Tribunal. There is a difference between using a global from an expansion and outright copy-and-pasting a script and suiting it to your needs, though it is admittedly a subtle one.
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Marxist, I would apreciate not being used as your scapegoat for any issues with the MWSource plugin. I have not had any contact with you regarding anything for at least a month, and i certainly did not ask you about not making an NPC wander. Your plugin must be going very badly if you not only have to accuse me of being the reason for the plugins delay and changes, but if you simultaneously contradict yoursel by saying that I am not even ON the dev team anymore. BTW, if HeLLL is wondering why I didn't reply to him, it's because I was told that I was no longer on the team on these forums with no warning or excuse and so I felt that no warning was needed before I stopped work on the plugin.

 

PLS, this is not meant as a flame, I am sorry if anyone views it that way. But I am sick of Marxist using me as a scapegoat and accusing me of being a n00b every second post. And it's not just on these forums either.

 

To everyone else, Happy Belated New Year!

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Suran Reborn is now officially recruiting... For details, go to #suranreborn on the GamesNET.net network -- any questions, comments, or concerns about the mod can also be voiced there. The times at which I will be in the channel are posted in this thread.

 

Reborn87, you aren't banned from the channel -- you can come as you please.

 

If your ISP name starts with "America" and ends with "Online," blame Reborn87 for not being able to get into the channel.

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