NPC's Lips NOT Moving

[slemo]

I haven't experienced something like this since Oblivion's double face bug but it's exactly like it.

 

Not a single NPC lips can move. Their hair, brows, beards, eye lashes, everything all clips through the face while the face stays completely still.

 

 

Last night my game ran perfectly fine, everyone could still talk to me. I loaded up this morning with just 2 new mods: Inigo Follower, and 3DNPCs (Interesting NPCS). Even after completely uninstalling them or deactivating them (with Mod Organizer) - the bug still consists.

 

Load Order:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Omegared99-Compilation.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

3DNPC.esp

Project Ultimatum.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Rainbows.esp

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

Footprints.esp

Beards.esp

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

BFSEffects.esp

Brows.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

DragonShoutVoice.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

Headtracking.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

Immersive detection of NPC.esp

Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp

No NPC Greetings.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

ADS.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

Opeth_torch.esp

RaceMenu.esp

XCEMwW.esp

SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp

ShootingStars.esp

SkyUI.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

TradeBarter.esp

SkyTweak.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp

Soul Gems Differ.esp

TCOSS.esp

CCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.esp

Thundering Shouts.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Inigo.esp

Cloaks.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Point The Way.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

HearthfireChimneys.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

ReneersCrimeOverhaul.esp

CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp

HothFollower.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

WetandCold.esp

AOS.esp

Opeth_Weather.esp

Traps Are Dangerous.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp

AOS2_EBT Patch.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

iHUD.esp

imp_helm_legend.esp

Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp

randomthunder.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Duke Patricks - Heavy Weapons Combat.esp

Please help if you can, this is such an annoying bug. The game runs perfectly fine other than no one's lips move.

[kniggit92]

Did you try rebooting your system? Why is your racemenu plugin above the racemenu.esp?

[slemo]

Rebooting did nothing - and racemenu plugin has always loaded itself before racemenu.esp and hasn't given me a single issue in the past two months of doing so.

[kniggit92]

Does this occur on a clean or very old save game?

[beastinair]

Don't mean to necro an old post, but did you ever find a fix for this? I've got the exact same issue going on.

[excelex]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32349

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18160

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/222

[beastinair]

I found the culprit for my issue - it was this: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/94545

 

The mod is intended to replace the female head mesh, but for some reason it was extending to male NPCs as well, even those added by mods such as Interesting NPCs.

 

Because it's just a mesh replacer, removing it from my mods list in MO resolved the issue for me. Now every NPC - males included - have lip animations again.

[excelex]

I found the culprit for my issue - it was this: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/94545

 

The mod is intended to replace the female head mesh, but for some reason it was extending to male NPCs as well, even those added by mods such as Interesting NPCs.

 

Because it's just a mesh replacer, removing it from my mods list in MO resolved the issue for me. Now every NPC - males included - have lip animations again.

 

those mods I posted tho do help when in doubt :smile: I have 300+ mods working the only issue is for me is noone of them are compatible. I had to force learn creation kit today >_< Ohhh and your on oldrim. Step it up brotha, come to the SSE side :)

[beastinair]

 

I found the culprit for my issue - it was this: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/94545

 

The mod is intended to replace the female head mesh, but for some reason it was extending to male NPCs as well, even those added by mods such as Interesting NPCs.

 

Because it's just a mesh replacer, removing it from my mods list in MO resolved the issue for me. Now every NPC - males included - have lip animations again.

 

those mods I posted tho do help when in doubt :smile: I have 300+ mods working the only issue is for me is noone of them are compatible. I had to force learn creation kit today >_< Ohhh and your on oldrim. Step it up brotha, come to the SSE side :smile:

 

It was funny because I completely forgot I even had that mod until I saw it. And I have some of those mods for Oldrim, I've been fortunate enough to have a surprisingly stable game despite having close to 600 mods active through MO and 229 plugins. :happy:

The thought of modding SSE did cross my mind until I started seeing people complain about how often it updates and them considering going back to Oldrim just because of it.

 

Have you tried making a merged patch through xEdit? I recently found out how to do it a few weeks ago, and it's been great at consolidating incompatibilities I run across (I have more than a few NPC replacers :laugh:)

 

 

[SpiderAkira]

If your really getting into modding xEdit is essential to have. Saves a lot of game purging and reinstall's.