hanslanda007 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I have a neck seam problem using Mature Skin and CBBE Slim but I cant see to shift it with Texblend which is strange, and any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate it's more than likely a fault on my end but I'm just seeking advice off anyone as I cannot suss out the problem.I installed in the following order, below the pictures i'll list my load orderCBBE Slim without facepackCaliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE Install Mature skin texture and body for UNP CBBE ADEC Mature Skin V2 Beta 5 UNP 7BASE CBBE VANILLAI have even removed the above mods then deleted the associated texture files and re installed the above mods without success.All was installed on a clean install of all mods and game and also a new game was started, I run everything with UNBLEAK ENB. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/673/SORZpS.jpg[/url]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/ozCMjZ.jpg[/url]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/673/SORZpS.jpg[/url]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/538/RSmmLb.jpg[/url]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/537/ag5c0J.jpg[/url] GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Dawnguard - Textures.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Dragonborn - Textures.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=0HighResTexturePack02.esp=0HighResTexturePack03.esp=083Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp=1lighterdbs.esp=1Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1Smoking Torches.esp=1Babette.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1KrittaKitty_horses_uniqueFrost.esp=1Frea.esp=1BW Ingjard.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1Differently Ebony.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1NobleFemaleClothes.esp=1SmartCast_1_0.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1BW Delphine.esp=1LessIntrusiveHUD.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1dragonpriestmasks.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp=1CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp=1Serana.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1Beards.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1Immersive NPC in the dark.esp=1CombatDramaOverhaul.esp=1RelightingSkyrim.esp=1AOS.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1AOS2_EBT Patch.esp=1Relighting Skyrim - Dawnguard.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp=1DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp=1ShootingStars.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp=1AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Aela.esp=1Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp=1DeadlyCombat.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1vImmersiveBeds.esp=1Volrath - Enhanced Lights and Fixes.esp=1Birdsofskyrim.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1Relighting Skyrim - Dragonborn.esp=1dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1High Level Enemies - SIC.esp=1ImmersiveSpells.esp=1FireAndIceOverhaul.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1ImmersiveSpells-NoDlcDawnDragComp.esp=1Vox Mundus.esp=1Morwen.esp=1MindiFollower.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1AOS2_GDO Patch.esp=1BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp=1Birds.esp=1People Have Torches.esp=1Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp=1FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp=1FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1Sighne.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1rtZuleikaFollower.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp=1RiversideLodge.esp=1DanarielStormbow.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1Farm Animals.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp=1DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp=1AOS2_FIO Patch.esp=1AOS2_DSI Patch.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp=1SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1ASIS-Dependency.esp=1DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp=1 Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kniggit92 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The seam in this case is caused by a difference in color/ texture quality. I recommend using UNP or 7B with a full body texture since CBBE has too many different body types to make a single good texture for. I personally use sevenbase or UNP with real girls realistic body texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanslanda007 Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 On 2/4/2015 at 4:39 PM, kniggit92 said: The seam in this case is caused by a difference in color/ texture quality. I recommend using UNP or 7B with a full body texture since CBBE has too many different body types to make a single good texture for. I personally use sevenbase or UNP with real girls realistic body texture.First of all thanks for the swift answer so here is my next question, say I go for UNP I just download Dimonized UNP body then install real girls realistic body? I'm just getting confused now by Bella and XP32 skeleton. Thanks once again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenB Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Download and install:Unp - base bodyMature skin - Body and face texture UNPMature skin - Body and face normal maps UNPMature skin - Alternative body normal map UNP (less muscles)Mature skin - Mature Skin new lips (moles clean) by maevan zzjayI personally use these, and I haven't found any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kniggit92 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) On 2/4/2015 at 4:49 PM, hanslanda007 said: On 2/4/2015 at 4:39 PM, kniggit92 said: The seam in this case is caused by a difference in color/ texture quality. I recommend using UNP or 7B with a full body texture since CBBE has too many different body types to make a single good texture for. I personally use sevenbase or UNP with real girls realistic body texture.First of all thanks for the swift answer so here is my next question, say I go for UNP I just download Dimonized UNP body then install real girls realistic body? I'm just getting confused now by Bella and XP32 skeleton. Thanks once again Yes, that is all you need to do, uninstall CBBE and then install those two mods. I advice you to not use bella with these mods because they look better without it (bella is very outdated, that mod hasn't been touched in two years, it also causes neckseams on a lot of textures, even the modpage image section has images with neckseams in them) Edited February 4, 2015 by kniggit92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanslanda007 Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Well just wanted to say thanks to all for advice, I removed everything CBBE and installed UNP and mature skin beta Neck seam still appears so I done some reading and tried no more bronze shine and dry skin but still no look, although not as bad. I can't help but think that CBBE has damaged something or the ENB just makes the problem more obvious as I only notice seam in certain lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRoseOfThorns Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) On 2/6/2015 at 1:51 PM, hanslanda007 said: Well just wanted to say thanks to all for advice, I removed everything CBBE and installedUNP and mature skin beta Neck seam still appears so I done some reading and tried no more bronze shine and dry skin but still no look, although not as bad. I can't help but think that CBBE has damaged something or the ENB just makes the problem more obvious as I only notice seam in certain lighting. It might be a difference in head mesh UV and n.dds map. You should install XCE (whole pack with high res complexion and dirt textures) overwrite it with unp body + textures +RaceMenu. What I use:SG Female Texture Reneval for UNP (for makeup)Real Girls Realistic Body Texture for UNP UNPB and SeveNBase - WIP (real girls large + face map) Search nexus for matching body/face sk.dds and s.dds textures (sweat/shine, subsurface scattering). If you like smooth skin you might go for Fair Skin Complexion by HHaleyy.(pretty much invisible neck > body transition) Ps: Body mods don't affect enb settings (it's the other way around), so there's no way cbbe would damage it. You just might have cbbe/vanilla textures/meshes leftovers. Make sure everything is replaced with unp compatible mods (see above). Also with some enbs neck trasnition is more visible in certain light. Edited February 6, 2015 by BlackRoseOfThorns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanslanda007 Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 On 2/6/2015 at 5:34 PM, BlackRoseOfThorns said: On 2/6/2015 at 1:51 PM, hanslanda007 said: Well just wanted to say thanks to all for advice, I removed everything CBBE and installedUNP and mature skin beta Neck seam still appears so I done some reading and tried no more bronze shine and dry skin but still no look, although not as bad. I can't help but think that CBBE has damaged something or the ENB just makes the problem more obvious as I only notice seam in certain lighting. It might be a difference in head mesh UV and n.dds map. You should install XCE (whole pack with high res complexion and dirt textures) overwrite it with unp body + textures +RaceMenu. What I use:SG Female Texture Reneval for UNP (for makeup)Real Girls Realistic Body Texture for UNP UNPB and SeveNBase - WIP (real girls large + face map) Search nexus for matching body/face sk.dds and s.dds textures (sweat/shine, subsurface scattering). If you like smooth skin you might go for Fair Skin Complexion by HHaleyy.(pretty much invisible neck > body transition) Ps: Body mods don't affect enb settings (it's the other way around), so there's no way cbbe would damage it. You just might have cbbe/vanilla textures/meshes leftovers. Make sure everything is replaced with unp compatible mods (see above). Also with some enbs neck trasnition is more visible in certain light. Thanks for the advice i'm going to digest it and have a go now. I'm happy that textures go to "\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\textures\actors\character" but where would I find the relevant meshes? I only ask as your comment on left over files got me thinking and NMM did stop responding when removing a skin texture mod, so I cant help but think something is left behind. Basically I deleted all the race files under character for textures and want to do the same for meshes. Hope i'm making some sense as I'm not finding it easy to explain lol. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRoseOfThorns Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Get 7zip (it's a freeware), find where NMM stores .zip files and open it to see folder structure and texture/mesh files inside. If it's a mod with multiple options for NMM it will be divided into separate folders like Core, BBP, etc. Just open it, there will be Data or Textures/Meshes folder inside. Find these files in your Skyrim/Data/... PS: Theoretically XCE should replace everything with exception of s/sk.dds and maybe hand/feet meshes (I don't remember if these were included). Edited February 6, 2015 by BlackRoseOfThorns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kniggit92 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Did you disable females by bella? I heard you mention that mod and it causes neck seams as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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