Random crashes to desktop. LOOT can't find the problem.

[Radagastys]

Hey guys.

 

I'm getting very random CTDs while playing. It could be while fighting a sabrecat or even just walking around in the wilderness or a city.

I don't seem to see a pattern with the crashes though i have noticed that it happens more often when fighting an animal.

Anyway, here is the load order of Mods, any help would be greatly appreciated!

 

 

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Skyrim.esm




Update.esm






Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp








Dawnguard.esm






Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp








HearthFires.esm






Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp








Dragonborn.esm






Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp








EFFCore.esm




ClimatesOfTamriel.esm






SkyUI.esp






AHZmoreHUD.esp






Auto Unequip Ammo.esp




FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp




RaceMenu.esp




Book Covers Skyrim.esp




Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp








1nivWICCloaks.esp








Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp





Rebirth Monster.esp






Convenient Horses.esp







Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp




EFFDialogue.esp




When Vampires Attack.esp






Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp




Footprints.esp




Footprints - Ash.esp




ProperWeaponScale.esp




UIExtensions.esp




RaceMenuPlugin.esp





DeadlyCombat.esp




ShootingStars.esp






Run For Your Lives.esp






Chesko_Frostfall.esp




Thundering Shouts (normal pitch).esp




VioLens.esp






iNeed.esp






Imaginator BETA.esp




brawlbug-plugin.esp





dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp





iHUD.esp




Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

LOOT reports that everything is completely clean.

 

I don't notice a drop in fps before crashes too. It's usually at a constant 60, though sometimes when fighting it will drop a bit, and in some cities. Haven't really noticed a connection between the two though, if that even matters? (i'm quite new to modding sorry)

[rblood01]

When this happens in my experience it is due to something missing from the game. An asset or something. I had a similar one with skeleton. When I removed the armors after killing the bandits I would get a crash. Sometimes it could be a bloated Save with various reference IDs and such that is well cluttering up the game. A game cleaner might be useful especially if you have removed mods after starting a new save or have played for a few dozen hours. Finally a simple step I use first is verify cache to be sure the base game is "tip top".

 

Sorry these examples are very basic and general because there isn't any concrete cause or repeatable action that can narrow down the causes. The above are just general ideas that might help with the problem. Best of luck

Edited February 15, 2015 by rblood01

[Radagastys]

  On 2/15/2015 at 1:24 AM, rblood01 said:

When I removed the armors after killing the bandits I would get a crash. Sometimes it could be a bloated Save with various reference IDs and such that is well cluttering up the game. A game cleaner might be useful especially if you have removed mods after starting a new save or have played for a few dozen hours.

Yeah i normally use a save game cleaner but this save was pretty new and i don't remember uninstalling any mods. I used it anyone earlier and there was 9 things to get rid of, but nfortantely it did not work.

 

I found one save where every time i loaded the game it would crash after around 8 seconds every single time. I tried loading it one time though and pausing straight away, after waiting around 20 seconds i resumed the game and i didn't crash which is strange.

 

Well i can continue with the game now. but these crashes still happen, although less often. Hopefully the save cleaner fixed most of it. Thank you for the advice.

[rblood01]

  On 2/15/2015 at 2:26 AM, Radagastys said:

 

  On 2/15/2015 at 1:24 AM, rblood01 said:

When I removed the armors after killing the bandits I would get a crash. Sometimes it could be a bloated Save with various reference IDs and such that is well cluttering up the game. A game cleaner might be useful especially if you have removed mods after starting a new save or have played for a few dozen hours.

Yeah i normally use a save game cleaner but this save was pretty new and i don't remember uninstalling any mods. I used it anyone earlier and there was 9 things to get rid of, but nfortantely it did not work.

 

I found one save where every time i loaded the game it would crash after around 8 seconds every single time. I tried loading it one time though and pausing straight away, after waiting around 20 seconds i resumed the game and i didn't crash which is strange.

 

Well i can continue with the game now. but these crashes still happen, although less often. Hopefully the save cleaner fixed most of it. Thank you for the advice.

 

Long shot is there might have been something trying to run at that time and then got overwhelmed with other scripts and such and caused a crash. Be careful of the # of mods and the type of mods you are using. You might be overworking the engine capability related to your configuration or have a few poorly scripted mods that are hanging or taking too much in resources.

 

Unfortunately it is the nature of the business of modding

[Radagastys]

  On 2/15/2015 at 3:14 AM, rblood01 said:

 

  On 2/15/2015 at 2:26 AM, Radagastys said:

 

  On 2/15/2015 at 1:24 AM, rblood01 said:

When I removed the armors after killing the bandits I would get a crash. Sometimes it could be a bloated Save with various reference IDs and such that is well cluttering up the game. A game cleaner might be useful especially if you have removed mods after starting a new save or have played for a few dozen hours.

Yeah i normally use a save game cleaner but this save was pretty new and i don't remember uninstalling any mods. I used it anyone earlier and there was 9 things to get rid of, but nfortantely it did not work.

 

I found one save where every time i loaded the game it would crash after around 8 seconds every single time. I tried loading it one time though and pausing straight away, after waiting around 20 seconds i resumed the game and i didn't crash which is strange.

 

Well i can continue with the game now. but these crashes still happen, although less often. Hopefully the save cleaner fixed most of it. Thank you for the advice.

 

Long shot is there might have been something trying to run at that time and then got overwhelmed with other scripts and such and caused a crash. Be careful of the # of mods and the type of mods you are using. You might be overworking the engine capability related to your configuration or have a few poorly scripted mods that are hanging or taking too much in resources.

 

Unfortunately it is the nature of the business of modding

 

Yeah i think you're right. I decided to scrap that save and use a lot less mods and the game seems to be running better, without crashing too. Again, thank you for the help :)

[gothdir]

I had to fight with CTD the last days too. I found out that any mod that modifies ambient sound (like Sounds of skyrim) made my game crash, not NPC talking just background sounds.

 

If you are using skse (which i guess since most mods need it). What also greatly reduced CTD was a change made to the skse.ini (located in skyrim/data/skse/). If you dont have such a file in that folder open a .txt file change the file ending to .ini and add:

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

save and start skyrim again.

 

Maybe start with the ini changes and try if that fix it if not I would recommend to deinstall sound altering mods. I know it sad as I would so love to use them too but disabling them made my game so much more stable and combined with the .ini tweak my game doesnt crash at all anymore and I have 96 mods and an ENB active while playing.

Edited February 15, 2015 by gothdir