What happened to the community patch?

[durklives]

I have to agree with DieAngel68.

Copyright laws, Washington's views on intellectual property and the constitution have nothing to do with this situation because no actual laws are being broken here. The only laws that apply in this case are, therefore, the ones defined by this site's author's. And those are clearly stated on several ocasions.

Every person here has to agree to the site's rules upon joining the community. So when you join, you agree (among other things) that "you will not copy and upload others modders works without their permission, and even more, when you upload a mod to this site, you have to agree to these terms yet again. Infringement of these rules is the uploaders own responsability while fully aware of these same rules.

Rules with wich i personally agree.

 

While some can get home from work or school and have a nice evening playing, modders spend hours modding and helping people to get the mods to work for them. This takes for many modders, more time than they actually spend playing (I for one, didn't even finish playing FO3). Just to provide themselves and the community with a better experience of the game. And FOR FREE! So I doubt anyone has a problem with sharing their work here.

But for the reasons stated above, modders deserve, if not recognition for their contribution, at least the respect of being asked for permission to use it.

 

The site's rules about this subject are intended to promote the creativity of the comunity and to incentivate people to have new ideas and make new mods but apparently some people would rather see it as a place for fast and easy consumption.

 

Okay, so if I go into the GECK and make it so the normal run speed is 10% more than default and upload it here, I own the "run speed is 10% more than default setting" now and forever, and no one can make a mod where run speed is 10 percent more than default without getting my permission, right? Is that how you think it should be? That makes sense to you? Of if I was the first guy to upload a multiple companions mod, I should be able to go around and file infringment complaints against anyone else who tries to make a similar mod?

 

Also, by the way, I don't know if you have ever seen the TV show Trailer Park Boys, but the way you get words wrong reminds me of the character Ricky. "Washington's ideas", "incentivate", you're an original riot man.

[WuphonsReach]

Okay, so if I go into the GECK and make it so the normal run speed is 10% more than default and upload it here, I own the "run speed is 10% more than default setting" now and forever, and no one can make a mod where run speed is 10 percent more than default without getting my permission, right? Is that how you think it should be? That makes sense to you? Of if I was the first guy to upload a multiple companions mod, I should be able to go around and file infringment complaints against anyone else who tries to make a similar mod?

You're specifically creating examples that are trivial to muddy the waters.

 

Bottom line: Dark0ne's site, Dark0ne's rules. Don't like it? Don't download from here, don't upload your mods here, stop trolling the community and go away.

 

In the above example, no, you don't own the concept. Someone else could redo you efforts *from scratch* in GECK and upload a similar mod. But if they downloaded yours, changed the names and re-uploaded it and called it theirs, they would be in the wrong. (It's never as easy as that. There's the ReadMe file, the comment on the ESP itself, the way you name your variables, the style and syntax inside the scripts. Plus the description on the site, the filenames, etc.)

[durklives]

Okay, so if I go into the GECK and make it so the normal run speed is 10% more than default and upload it here, I own the "run speed is 10% more than default setting" now and forever, and no one can make a mod where run speed is 10 percent more than default without getting my permission, right? Is that how you think it should be? That makes sense to you? Of if I was the first guy to upload a multiple companions mod, I should be able to go around and file infringment complaints against anyone else who tries to make a similar mod?

You're specifically creating examples that are trivial to muddy the waters.

 

Bottom line: Dark0ne's site, Dark0ne's rules. Don't like it? Don't download from here, don't upload your mods here, stop trolling the community and go away.

 

In the above example, no, you don't own the concept. Someone else could redo you efforts *from scratch* in GECK and upload a similar mod. But if they downloaded yours, changed the names and re-uploaded it and called it theirs, they would be in the wrong. (It's never as easy as that. There's the ReadMe file, the comment on the ESP itself, the way you name your variables, the style and syntax inside the scripts. Plus the description on the site, the filenames, etc.)

 

The fact that this website is owned by a person and they have the right to do what they want was never in contention. Perhaps a discussion about what changes are owned property is entirely above you, in which case you are dismissed.

[DarkeWolf]

Thread locked. This is getting nowhere. The original topic has been answered and now this is turning into a bunch of nonsense and flaming. /thread.

-DarkeWolf