I CANT BELIVE IT

[Malchik]

Peregrine has the PC version. He is saying that Oblivion plays as if designed for xbox.

[cryocry]

What are you trying to do, make ppl stop play Oblivon and start playing Morrowind ? this forum will be empty :( I never played this Morowind but ive seen pics and first thing i see is really bad graphics. Now maybe i know nothing bout Morrowind , but Oblivion is the best game ive ever played and ill never give that up. NEVER ! ;D

 

 

 

 

Morrowind had good graphics if you had a good graphics card. However, Oblivion does have them ACTUALLY TALKING INSTEAD OF TEXT IN A WINDOW (except for Almalexia). Oblivion and Morrowind are about the same in my book, if you count everything. Oblivion got an A in fancy schmancy stuff, and Morrowind got a 4 in Content (refer to Douglas County grading) in my book.

[Peregrine]

Peregrine has the PC version. He is saying that Oblivion plays as if designed for xbox.

 

Exactly. Morrowind was a PC game that was eventually brought over to the xbox, but its design was clearly for the PC gamers. The game was just so much more complex and well-developed. On the other hand, Oblivion was very obviously designed with the xbox-kid crowd in mind as their highest priority. Rather than make a true sequel to Morrowind, they dumbed the game down considerably, and tried to replace depth of gameplay with pretty graphics. I guess to get the profitable "10 year olds with daddy's credit card" market, they had to bring it down to a level a 10 year old can understand.

 

I never played this Morowind but ive seen pics and first thing i see is really bad graphics.

 

1) Go play Morrowind, right now. You'll never even look at Oblivion again.

 

2) Oblivion actually has horrible graphics. As an artist, I'm very disappointed in what they did with Oblivion. Morrowind's engine might have been older, but the design quality was so much higher. The world actually felt real, like the different races/towns/etc actually had different designers behind them. Oblivion just ruined that all, replacing it with Generic European Fantasy and some fancy shaders. And they didn't even do it well... all those fancy effects are supposed to be subtle. But Oblivion has them set to absurdly high levels, probably so the questionably intelligent target audience can realize that yes, their xbox is actually delivering all those promised shaders.

 

Here's a simple lesson for all wannabe game designers out there: advanced engines and long lists of technical terms are NOT a substitute for artistic talent.

[Birdcatmeow]

I never played this Morowind but ive seen pics and first thing i see is really bad graphics.

 

1) Go play Morrowind, right now. You'll never even look at Oblivion again.

 

 

Your serious ? can I first just know when did Morrowind come out ? as far as my experiance shows, older games are worse than newer games.

[sleaaels]

On the contrary, Morrowind is excellent, despite the dated graphics. I too would encourage people to play Morrowind...if you can't live with the fact that the graphics are old, there are enhancers for the enviroment as well as the npc/player (personally i think when the faces were created, the programmer was either high or were at the remaining bottom sludge of the game budget). Oh yeah be prepared to NOT have fast travel and easy map pointers.

[cactoblasta]

Morrowind actually looks quite good with a few commonly available mods. It doesn't have any real fancy particle effects or shaders, but it's certainly playable. The character models from Better Bodies are to some extent better than the character models in Oblivion. They're seamless for a start. Slap on a few high-res texture packs (Slof's for preference) and you'll be surprised at how good the game actually looks.

 

The only real downside to playing modded Morrowind is the extremely frequent crashes. Comparative stability is probably one of Oblivion's best features.

[Malchik]

I did say Bethesda took two steps forward as well as five back. If you return to MW after playing Ob for some time there are things you wish could have been available when MW was developed. But once you start playing you quickly forget them. Pretty graphics, AI and spoken dialogue are not enough to give Cyrodiil the sheer variety found in MW. In MW if you visited (for example) a Dwemer ruin it had its own sound, its own distinctive architecture, its own lighting ambience and its own specific kind of monster. And it was colourful! Leaving aside that there are far fewer types of dungeon in Ob, they are uniformly drab and (with the exception of the Ayleid stones) their occupants and contents are totally interchangeable.

 

Unless like me you are a completist nerd, why would you bother to find all 88 caves in Oblivion? They have no special artifacts and once you have faced the seven generic monster types a couple of times (which you could have done in forts or Ayleid ruins too) no surprises.

 

If you can get past spending the first ten minutes griping at the absence of those two steps forward most people would I think find MW the more satisfying game. But NOT everybody.

[cryocry]

...The only real downside to playing modded Morrowind is the extremely frequent crashes. Comparative stability is probably one of Oblivion's best features.

 

 

 

 

 

What are you talking about? Oblivion crashes more for me than Morrowind ever did!

[cactoblasta]

Really? That's odd. When I played through Oblivion I found it relatively stable. Sure it crashed a few times, but it wasn't the once every hour crash I'd come to expect from Morrowind.

 

I guess it's one of those strange hardware things then.

[dreth]

Back to the "is anyone bored part", I got bored with Oblivion a while ago so I decided to mod. Got bored with that and took a break from it for a while and played MW ;D . Now I'm back on Oblivion with no cheats, no mods and the difficulty as high as it goes. It's a lot more fun if you can play without it crashing and the risk of getting sliced in two :D !