The free-to-use Bug Fix Category

[Dark0ne]

PM reply to Zenball:

 

What time I have is limited. I do not work on these sites full-time.I have an extremely long to-do list on which there have been some items for a couple of years now. I delegate my time as I see fit, having the whole picture to decide where best my time is spent. You have raised one of many issues and as such believe that your issue is the most pressing and your requests are now becoming semi demands at my lack of action.

 

I will say this; at this time you have several options, you can work within my system and upload your file under the guidelines of this site or you can upload your file elsewhere and share it with the community. This site isn't the be-all-and-end-all of the modding community and there are plenty of other sites available for you to use. Coming here and making demands of me so that your time is made easier getting the permissions you should be seeking isn't going to work. If and when I take action is not for you to decide.

 

Pretty much sums it up. I'm clearly aware of the issue but I'm not going to discuss any remedies if I don't actually have the time to implement them. Before I go to London tomorrow I will throw up a "Bug Fixes" category. This category will be like any other category and will not have any new special rules or permissions. Folks already know the stance on not being able to claim ownership of very small fixes. How much is too small? How long is a piece of string? If an issue arises where a mod author is unhappy with the use of their fix then we'll review it again as and when necessary.

[Eiries]

thanks for your input, shame it's based upon kneejerk, reactionary response and assumption, adds absolutely nothing to the discussion and shows a basic failure to engage in the topic with even a modicum of intelligence or awareness.

 

Perhaps I came off a bit harsh, and for that, I apologize. Like I said, I wasn't going to peruse the twenty pages of text to fully digest the situation, but, from your latest post, I'm sure I had the gist of it the first time. You didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, aside from the fact that you eventually received all the permissions you needed. On that note, good for you! :thumbsup:

 

No wonder you find the proposition that the poll puts forwards 'awkward and confusing'.

 

In terms of site layout and coding. Please don't attempt to degrade my words or intelligence. Having a special set of rules for a specific category is something these sites are not currently built to have.

 

I understand that this is a touchy subject, and you make valid points. I understand your point of view of this situation, but the fact of the matter is, modifying the rules in this sort of way brings up the subjectivity on what deserves rights protection and what doesn't. The Credits and Distribution Permission section is the perfect place for the user posting to decide whether he or she is okay with other people utilizing their mod, as simple as it may be or not. If someone is willing to put their mod into this "category," then they were probably already more than willing to mention in the Credits and Distribution Permission section that they don't mind if other users use their assets. I suppose that's why you'd want to make this category in the first place, as few would find the need to hold onto a simple bugfix as if it were their own fantastic, well-thought-out creation to begin with.

 

That being said, in the event that more categories are added to the site, a Bug Fix category would be a neat thing to have. The more I contemplate it, the more it doesn't seem like a bad thing. From what Dark0ne has said in the previous thread, the biggest issue about it is actually implementing it into the site and making it work.

 

I just find a bit of redundancy in having a category with its own rules, when the Credits and Distribution Permission section already gives the uploader the right to choose how he would like his mod to be treated. It just seems like an awful lot of coding for something that almost already exists.

 

In closing, I don't outwardly disagree with your thoughts, I just find it to be a lot of work with little payoff. It would be convenient yes, but if people used the Credits and Distribution Permission section efficiently enough, I would think there would be little need for it.

 

I hope that you have not filed you butthurt paperwork just yet. From what I've read, Dark0ne isn't completely against your ideas, he's just a very busy fellow to currently dedicate himself to your cause.

 

EDIT: Seems Dark0ne beat me to the reply. That's what I get for having this browser window up for over an hour. :rolleyes: