Strange blue border and unexplained crashes

[GooeyGungan]

Hey, everyone.

 

I recently began having unexplained crashes irritatingly often, and there's a one (or maybe two) pixel blue border along the left side and the top of the game.

 

These crashes almost always happen outside, and I have no idea what causes them. I feel like they happen around water, but that could be total coincidence.

 

Here's my load order:

 

 

 

Active Mod Files:

• 00 Oblivion.esm

 

• 01 Windfall.esm

 

• 02 EnhancedWeather.esm [Version 1.4.1]

 

• 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]

 

• 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]

 

• 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

 

• 06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

 

• 07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1]

 

• 08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

 

• 09 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.8.0]

 

• 0A HorseCombatMaster.esm

 

• 0B UnnecessaryViolence.esm

 

• • • Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]

 

• • • Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]

 

• 0C Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.2]

 

• 0D UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

 

• 0E Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

 

• 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

• 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

 

• 11 Better Cities .esp

 

• 12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

 

• 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

 

• 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

 

• 15 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

 

• ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 16 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 17 Fran Armor Add-on.esp

 

• 18 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp

 

• 19 EnhancedWeather.esp [Version 1.3.5]

 

• 1A Enhanced Weather - Across-The-Borders Mods Patch.esp [Version Final]

 

• 1B Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

 

• 1C PCSoundRhett.esp [Version 2.6]

 

• ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]

 

• 1D Streamline 3.1.esp

 

• 1E DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

• 1F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

 

• 20 DLCOrrery.esp

 

• 21 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

 

• 22 DLCVileLair.esp

 

• 23 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

 

• 24 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

• 25 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

 

• 26 DLCSpellTomes.esp

 

• ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

 

• 27 DLCThievesDen.esp

 

• 28 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

 

• 29 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

 

• 2A ExnemRuneskulls.esp

 

• ++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 2B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

 

• 2C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

 

• ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]

 

• 2D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

 

• 2E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 2F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

 

• ++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• • • Oblivion WarCry.esp [Version 1.085a]

 

• 30 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08a]

 

• 31 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 32 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

 

• ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

 

• • • OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

 

• ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 33 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 34 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 35 Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp [Version 3.7b1]

 

• 36 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b1]

 

• 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b1]

 

• ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]

 

• 38 Malevolent.esp

 

• 39 Windfall.esp

 

• 3A DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

 

• 3B DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

 

• 3C DLCfrostcrag.esp

 

• 3D FrostcragRebornCobl.esp

 

• 3E Knights.esp

 

• 3F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]

 

• 40 RTT.esp

 

• ++ Enhanced Weather - Ruined Tail's Tale Patch.esp [Version Final]

 

• 41 The Lost Spires.esp

 

• 42 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

 

• 43 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

 

• 44 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

 

• 45 xulTheHeath.esp

 

• 46 XulEntiusGorge.esp

 

• 47 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

 

• 48 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]

 

• 49 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

 

• 4A xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

 

• 4B xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]

 

• 4C xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]

 

• 4D xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]

 

• 4E xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]

 

• 4F xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

 

• 50 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

 

• 51 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]

 

• 52 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

 

• 53 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]

 

• 54 xulPantherRiver.esp

 

• 55 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

 

• 56 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]

 

• 57 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6]

 

• 58 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]

 

• 59 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

 

• 5A xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

 

• 5B xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]

 

• 5C xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]

 

• 5D FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp

 

• 5E OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp

 

• ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]

 

• 5F Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• 60 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

 

• 61 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]

 

• 62 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1]

 

• ++ Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0]

 

• ++ Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0]

 

• ++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0]

 

• 63 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90]

 

• 64 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]

 

• ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]

 

• ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]

 

• ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]

 

• ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]

 

• 65 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]

 

• ++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.86]

 

• ++ SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]

 

• ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]

 

• ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]

 

• 66 MidasSpells.esp

 

• 67 Midas OscuroGems.esp

 

• ++ Midas Betterholy.esp

 

• ++ Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp

 

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp

 

• ++ Midas PowDur2x.esp

 

• ++ Midas Eldrich Power 4x.esp

 

• ++ Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp

 

• 68 Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp

 

• 69 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

 

• 6A DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

• ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]

 

• 6B RealisticLeveling.esp

 

• ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]

 

• ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp [Version 0.76]

 

• ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.76]

 

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b1]

 

• 6C Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]

 

• ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]

 

• 6D Better Cities Full.esp [Version 4.8.0]

 

• 6E Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 4.7.0]

 

• 6F Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp [Version 4.8.0]

 

• 70 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 4.7.0]

 

• 71 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.0]

 

• 72 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.7.0]

 

• 73 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 4.8.0]

 

• 74 Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 4.7.0]

 

• 75 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

 

• 76 UnnecessaryViolence.esp

 

• ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

 

• 77 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

Thanks for any help you can offer!

-GG

 

(PS: Should these types of threads go in "Mod Troubleshooting" or "Technical Support"? I can never tell.)

[Hickory]

Mod Troubleshooting is where this belongs -- you are experiencing issues related to installed mods.

 

You have a lot of memory and cpu hungry mods there, so the first thing to do is turn off automatic saving on fast travel, sleep etc. You make no mention of your system specs, particularly graphics card -- if your graphics card can't cope with the strain of all of those mods, you are going to experience these kinds of issues. Try not to play for extended periods with such a heavily modded game. Quit to the desktop occasionally, and restart the game. Turn down some graphics, especially things like shadows and specular distance. Don't have AA and Anisotropic filtering set too high in your GC control panel.

[GooeyGungan]

Alright. I'll try some of those suggestions. I'm running Streamline, so will it turn down any of those settings?

 

Sorry for not posting my specs. They are:

Intel Core i7 920

ATI Raedon 5780

6GB G.Skill RAM

ASUS P6T

[Hickory]

Streamline will not affect your GC control panel setting at all -- those are totally independent of the game. Whether it alters shadow, specular distance etc. I cannot say, since I don't use it. Do not rely on it doing so, though -- set them low manually.

[GooeyGungan]

I'll try setting some of those settings lower then and see if that helps.

 

I've also started noticing a lot of missing meshes lately. Could these two problems be related?

[Hickory]

I'll try setting some of those settings lower then and see if that helps.

 

I've also started noticing a lot of missing meshes lately. Could these two problems be related?

 

Missing meshes can be a result of bad load order, incorrect installations etc. It's not unheard of for corrupt, rather than missing, meshes to cause crashes. Do you use BOSS and Wrye Bash?

[GooeyGungan]

Yes, I do use both Wrye Bash and BOSS. Is there something special I should be doing with them?

 

Also, as far as I can tell, the missing meshes are all weapons.

[Hickory]

I don't know what you mean by "something special". What you should be doing is setting Wrye Bash to automatically detect BOSS suggestions -- make sure that your BOSS list is up to date -- and when you rebuild your Bashed Patch, go through each and every option to check off any of your mods that are installed, and uncheck any that remain and are NOT installed. These sections should ALWAYS be checked:

Merge Patches

Import xxxxx

Cobl Catalogs (ONLY if running Cobl)

Contents Checker

Leveled Lists

Race Records

SEWorld Tests (ONLY if running Shivering Isles)

 

Remember to ALWAYS run BOSS after installing, removing or editing mods, and then rebuild your Bashed Patch, in that order.

 

If your missing meshes are only weapons, it sounds like the mods are not installed correctly.

[charlottenoyen]

Also, as far as I can tell, the missing meshes are all weapons.

 

I had the exact same problem recently and I see you're using Francesco's. I don't think this will affect the crashes, but could you check if you have a .bsa file called "FraNewItems" in your data folder? If not, that will explain the missing meshes. You need the .bsa file and for some reason it's not included in the multi-language mod here on Nexus.

 

See the last post in this thread for a full explanation and download links.

 

Like I said, it won't affect the crashes, but maybe that'll be one less problem to worry about.

 

EDIT: speaking of having the exact same problem, I also have that blue border, but it changes to yellow once I enter the Shivering Isles. Annoying or not, that pretty neat :)

Edited November 27, 2010 by charlottenoyen

[GooeyGungan]

I don't know what you mean by "something special". What you should be doing is setting Wrye Bash to automatically detect BOSS suggestions -- make sure that your BOSS list is up to date -- and when you rebuild your Bashed Patch, go through each and every option to check off any of your mods that are installed, and uncheck any that remain and are NOT installed. These sections should ALWAYS be checked:

Merge Patches

Import xxxxx

Cobl Catalogs (ONLY if running Cobl)

Contents Checker

Leveled Lists

Race Records

SEWorld Tests (ONLY if running Shivering Isles)

 

Remember to ALWAYS run BOSS after installing, removing or editing mods, and then rebuild your Bashed Patch, in that order.

 

If your missing meshes are only weapons, it sounds like the mods are not installed correctly.

 

As far as I can tell, Wrye Bash is detecting BOSS's suggestions. Is there something I should check?

 

Does so does "Import xxxxx" mean that all the "Import [something]" options should be checked? Are there any that should not be?

 

I had the exact same problem recently and I see you're using Francesco's. I don't think this will affect the crashes, but could you check if you have a .bsa file called "FraNewItems" in your data folder? If not, that will explain the missing meshes. You need the .bsa file and for some reason it's not included in the multi-language mod here on Nexus.

 

See the last post in this thread for a full explanation and download links.

 

Like I said, it won't affect the crashes, but maybe that'll be one less problem to worry about.

 

EDIT: speaking of having the exact same problem, I also have that blue border, but it changes to yellow once I enter the Shivering Isles. Annoying or not, that pretty neat :)

 

Yeah, I have the .bsa. And it's not all the weapons that are missing them, only a select few.