Constructive criticism wanted

[Kyross]

I've been trying to do a thread about this project for the near-year I've worked on it, and it always times out or crashes. So I'm not even going to describe it beyond this particular model lest I get jinxed again.

 

A Warg from lord of the rings, to be made into an npc and HOPEFULLY a mount. I have never modelled a quadruped before, nor do i have any experience in oblivion modding, and decent references were virtually impossible to find. So, while the head is still under and expecting a lot of work I would like as much insight as possible about what I can do with it. Especially the interior of the mouth as far as default open-ness and action when it comes to the teeth/gums and how they'd work between npc(wolf anims) or mount.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/Wargside.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/wargfront.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/warg34.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/waggawagga.jpg

 

Blast it.

[WastelandAssassin]

in terms of the body, it looks really good

 

the head, like you said, could use some work (though i can't even recall how exactly the Wargs look like, after several years of not seeing the movie.......)

 

if you want, i can send you a link to a mod (that isn't hosted here) that has a mount like this one (a 4 legged creature that isn't a horse, that is) so that you will be able to see how it is animated, and how it functions as a mount and such

 

this is some quality work, and i hope to see it completed some day :)

[Kyross]

Well I'd imagined the mount would have a static face, but when it comes to the npc imagine the lunging attack the wolf does but with this coming at you:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/warg2.jpg

 

My other referecnes were thus:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/Gothmog20on20Warg.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/warg.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v651/Banesk/warg1.jpg

Kind of a modellers nightmare to work with really.

[WastelandAssassin]

well, being someone with less than 0 modeling experience, i can't really say how much of a nightmare this is, but it does look like some serious work for you

 

correct me if i am wrong here

do you want to make a Warg with a rider, as one creature??

because i guess it is possible, but it won't be easy.......

 

best of luck to you

[majikmonkee]

It looks pretty good so far. Everquest 2 has a warg mount that might be a useful reference for you too.so far so good though.

[Kyross]

Nope. The warg and rider are to be separate, the warg is to accompany the npcs which are the focus of the mod actually. My sig kind of gives it all away.

Since this was my first animal body I had to do it half looking at the wolf body and then filling in the gaps with ym iamgination and using my own technique. This just hasn't gone easily for the head, which once that and the mouth are done I'll just stick on a planar layered mane and fur tufts where necessary.

[WastelandAssassin]

oh ok

making the mount and rider separated would make this a whole lot easier to make

 

and whatever you can do, it will be awesome

you might even want to talk to the Middle Earth team here in the Nexus

i am sure they would love to have your help, and they might be able to help you as well

you can find the mod page here

[Kyross]

Yeah I've followed some of their stuff on moddb. They can use any of my stuff with credit if they want when I'm done, since I'm actually making all the equipment for uruk hai to complement The Bloke's original race/npc/gear mod which only had a single npc using retextured legion armor. I've made 17 peices of gear(none texturedd and ingame yet), 5 npc classes plus a black uruk breed recolour and subsequent hero npcs. I don't remember if I told them i was doing it and they could or not, but they have already modelled their own Uruk-Hai face so maybe we could swap assets. *Shrug*

[WastelandAssassin]

i thought you started with the Warg......

 

wow, you are far ahead of what i thought you would be, in your project

and this is a very promising sign, i have to admit :)

 

wish i could offer you some help, but i have no knowledge at all, that you can use

but i guess my wishing you good luck will have to do :biggrin:

[ub3rman123]

Okay, suggestions:

1. The eyes: They make it look sort of odd. Have you tried instead making them inside of the head with a slit to see them through? Eyelids, basically. I'm not sure if you need to animate them.

2. It needs teeth! It doesn't look quite vicious without them.

3. Is it possible to make the mouth a bit less.. Smiley? Try curving the mouth so it's more neutral or even downwards.

 

I'm sure it will look a ton better with a texture, though.