CTD when equipping enchanted items

[charlottenoyen]

This doesn't happen every time, but at least half the times: every time I equip an enchanted piece of armor (armor, rings, necklaces, everything besides weapons) the game crashes to desktop with a runtime error. Not sure if this is a mod problem, but I'm guessing it is. Is there a mod that's been known to do this?

 

I use all the "anti-crash" mods I think there are, but those haven't helped with this particular problem.

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  A_Bloody_Mess.esm
02  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.0]
03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
04  Windfall.esm
05  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]
06  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
07  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]
08  Armamentarium.esm
09  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
0A  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
0B  ArmamentariumFran.esm
==  ROOT=====================
0C  Better Cities .esp
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]
0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
==  ROOT+1===================
10  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]
11  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
12  Storms & Sound.esp
==  LIBRARY==================
13  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]
==  COSMETIC=================
++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
++  Cyrodilic Brandy.esp
14  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
15  Ice Gowns for HGEC.esp
16  Leviathan Soulgems.esp
17  Morrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.esp
++  Real Lava 1.3.esp
18  Ren_Soya_KD's.esp
++  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
**  StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
++  VA_BetterGold_ITA.esp
==  CLOTHING=================
19  AC2 Revisited HGEC.esp
1A  Armor of Gaia.esp
1B  BBBRoseoftheGuard.esp
1C  BlackLuster.esp
1D  EY_BM_Armory.esp
1E  EY_Vampirehunter.esp
1F  KDClothCirclets.esp
20  KDDwemerSpectacles.esp
21  MempoF.esp
22  NewbsArmoredRobes.esp
23  pizz_NINJA_outfit.esp
24  Queensarmory.esp
25  Scarves!.esp
26  Tegeals Extra Robes.esp
27  tona_shadow-walker.esp
28  Underworld Armor.esp
29  vermillionandsilverthorn.esp
==  WEAPON===================
2A  FB_DC_Mega_Pack_OMOD_BC1.esp
==  TWEAK-1==================
2B  Better_Water-1830.esp
2C  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
2D  Harvest[Containers].esp
**  LoadingScreens.esp
==  TWEAK====================
2E  ANBToggleGrab.esp
**  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
2F  Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp  [Version 1.0]
30  CLS-AlchemyTools.esp
31  Empower Enchantment.3.x.esp
32  Enchantment Enhanced.esp
33  EnchantmentRestore.esp
++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
34  Francesco's level up mini mod - Slower skills x1.5.esp
35  Get Wet.esp
36  GuildOwnership1.2.esp
37  No More Annoying Comments.esp
38  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
++  NoDaedricQuestLevelLocks.esp
++  NoGuildmasterKick.esp
39  NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp
3A  Q - Gem Value Modifier - Realistic v1.1.esp
3B  qazAttackToCast.esp
++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
3C  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy_No_Bounty_v2.esp
3D  Thieves Guild Quest Souvenirs.esp
3E  TweakAthleticsNoSpeed.esp
==  TWEAK+1==================
3F  ACCCGR SI.esp
40  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  FineWeapons.esp
41  Regional Legion Soldiers by Ionis.esp
++  RustyItems.esp
**  SPARTAN VIs Diverse City Guards v1 2.esp
==  TWEAK+2==================
++  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
42  Anvil_MorningGloryBetterCities_Blue.esp
**  Book Jackets DLC.esp
43  BookCollisionTest.esp
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
44  Corpse Equip Automatic.esp
++  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
45  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
46  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
47  P1DmenuEscape.esp
48  Potable Pastiche.esp
49  SetsunaDummyTraining.esp
4A  Specular_Fix_1.1-2019.esp
4B  Staffcraft.esp
4C  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
4D  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
==  OVERHAUL-1===============
4E  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
==  OVERHAUL=================
4F  EM_CompInnsleeping.esp  [Version 0.9]
50  Intelligence Overhaul BJ.esp
51  S.P.A.M. 100+.esp  [Version 2.2]
==  OVERHAUL+1===============
52  Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp
++  Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp
==  MISC.====================
53  aaaBorsBedrolls.esp
54  AyleidFiringa.esp
**  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.1]
55  DLCHorseArmor.esp
56  DLCOrrery.esp
57  DLCSpellTomes.esp
58  JQ-Backpacks.esp
59  More_Vegetables.esp
5A  PTArtifacts.esp
5B  Reznod_Mannequin.esp
5C  SaberCloth.esp
5D  Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp
5E  Tamriel Books of Lore, Decoration.esp
5F  Wrye Shivering.esp  [Version 08]
==  MAGIC====================
60  Disenchant.esp
61  TimboeMultiMark & Recall.esp
==  MAGIC+2==================
62  MidasSpells.esp
==  NPC======================
63  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.3.2]
64  AFK_PrayerIdles.esp  [Version 1.0]
65  Delmar_the_Soulgem_Salesman-5069.esp
66  RhiannaII.esp
==  HOME=====================
67  DLCThievesDen.esp
68  DLCVileLair.esp
==  PLACE====================
69  DLCFrostcrag.esp
6A  Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp
6B  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]
6C  The Black Cat Jewelry Store - Daedric Statues.esp
==  QUEST-1==================
6D  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
==  QUEST====================
6E  300_Artifacts.esp
6F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
70  Knights.esp
71  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
72  RTT.esp
73  The Lost Spires.esp
74  Windfall.esp
==  QUEST+1==================
75  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
==  QUEST+3==================
76  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.2.COBL]
77  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
78  The Soul of Ilithiel.esp
79  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]
==  NONE=====================
7A  DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp
++  COBL-FransCre.esp
7B  FrostcragMidasLab.esp
++  1em_Vilja_as_Moonshadow_Elf_Stranger.esp
7C  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
7D  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
7E  Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
++  A Bloody Mess - Arena Wash Basin.esp
7F  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp
80  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
81  Streamline 3.1.esp
82  MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp
==  LAST-1===================
**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
83  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
84  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
85  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
86  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
87  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
++  Fransfemale.esp
**  Knights - Book Jackets.esp
88  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
89  LCE-addon.esp
==  LAST=====================
8A  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
8B  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
8C  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]
8D  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
8E  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
8F  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
90  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
91  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
92  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
93  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
94  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
95  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
96  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
97  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
98  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
99  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
9A  XulEntiusGorge.esp
9B  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
9C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
9D  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
9E  xulPantherRiver.esp
9F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
A0  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
A1  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
A2  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
A3  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]
A4  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
A5  xulTheHeath.esp
==  LAST+1===================
A6  Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.esp
A7  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp
A8  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp
**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
==  LAST+2===================
A9  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
AA  LostSpires-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp
AB  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
AC  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
AD  VeronaHouseBloodlines-UL patches Merged.esp
==  LAST+3===================
AE  AyleidStatueMap.esp
AF  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]
B0  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
B1  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
B2  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
**  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
B3  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
B4  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
B5  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
B6  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
B7  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
**  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
B8  Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
B9  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
**  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]
BA  ShadowbanishMap.esp
BB  ShowDaedricShrines.esp
==  LAST+4===================
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]
BC  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Thanks for any help you can offer!

Edited December 9, 2010 by charlottenoyen

[zephalos]

Try disabling all the mods with 'enchant' in them, they would be most likely causing the conflict. If it fixes the problem, the reenable them one by one until it crashes again.

If that doesn't fix it, you can try disabling them all and enabling one at a time, but with a list as long as that, it would not be fun.

 

Edit: Spelling

Edited December 10, 2010 by zephalos

[Hickory]

Your mod list does not conform to BOSS load order. Suggest you update to latest version of BOSS and update your masterlist, then rebuild your Bashed Patch.

[charlottenoyen]

Try disabling all the mods with 'enchant' in them, they would be most likely causing the conflict. If it fixes the problem, the reenable them one by one until it crashes again.

I've done that, played normally for roughly three hours and it seems to have worked. I'm not sure, but I do seem to be crashing a whole lot less. (I run a very unstable game. It's my own damn fault. I'm not complaining.) Thank you :)

 

Your mod list does not conform to BOSS load order. Suggest you update to latest version of BOSS and update your masterlist, then rebuild your Bashed Patch.

I have the latest version of BOSS, but I'll admit it confuses me. I use the auto-sorting feature of Bash (Balo I think it's called) and BOSS messes up that order something fierce. When I run it, half the mods I have aren't recognized by the program and end up dumped together at the end, but many of them have very specific instructions as to when they should load. Looking up 100+ mods to see if they have specific load order instructions all over again seems like a daunting task. Or am I doing it wrong?

[Smooth613]

You're doing it wrong. You need to disable lock times and set BOSS to automatically update every time you run it through Wrye Bash. Take a look at this pic for the settings I'm referring to. Make sure you have the most recent available versions of BOSS and Wrye Bash.

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Image taken from Wrye Bash Pictorial Guide for Newbies.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/35230-1-1288716787.jpg

[Hickory]

I have the latest version of BOSS, but I'll admit it confuses me. I use the auto-sorting feature of Bash (Balo I think it's called) and BOSS messes up that order something fierce. When I run it, half the mods I have aren't recognized by the program and end up dumped together at the end, but many of them have very specific instructions as to when they should load. Looking up 100+ mods to see if they have specific load order instructions all over again seems like a daunting task. Or am I doing it wrong?

 

BALO is woefully inadequate. Please use BOSS instead, and follow Smooth613's advice.

[charlottenoyen]

You're doing it wrong.

 

That's what I thought. I couldn't for the life of me get the latest version of Wrye Bash running, so I figured it was okay the way it was. I had no idea it came with BOSS support. My bad. :tongue:

 

Thank you so very much for the help, I think this will solve a lot of the problems I'm having.

Edited December 11, 2010 by charlottenoyen