Quick updates to the site, money money money edition

[joeyweast22]

So is Nexus gonna start charging for mods as well, please no because I NEEEED this site for mods

[Blademaster1215]

In response to post #24601099. #24601154, #24601174, #24601304 are all replies on the same post.

CiderMuffin wrote:

merrydownjade wrote: I'm getting this too.
http://i.imgur.com/hIczjJj.png

MrTrigun wrote: Yeah..same here. Only the big bundle seems to be up.

AlexandruRadu wrote: Same here guys I guess we won after all

I did say it a few minutes ago, but it got buried. Edited April 24, 2015 by Blademaster1215

[AlexandruRadu]

In response to post #24601099. #24601154, #24601174, #24601284 are all replies on the same post.

CiderMuffin wrote:

merrydownjade wrote: I'm getting this too.
http://i.imgur.com/hIczjJj.png

MrTrigun wrote: Yeah..same here. Only the big bundle seems to be up.

Blademaster1215 wrote: I did say it a for minutes ago, but it got buried.

Same here guys I guess we won after all

[StaciKrash]

In response to post #24600654. #24600674, #24600714, #24600744, #24600914, #24601069 are all replies on the same post.

StaciKrash wrote:

Dark0ne wrote: This one?

It's not hidden, it's on their service provider listing at the bottom of this page, which explains how it works. Mod authors select service providers who they think helped them in their modding, and in turn, the service provider gets between 1%-5% of Valve's cut of their profits, depending on how many service providers were picked by the mod author.

So the mod author opts in to it themselves, and the money comes from Valve's cut.

LtRhapthorne wrote: He either needs to make the Nexus paid for (killing it) or remove the Nexus as an option for service provider. Otherwise, he's double dipping.

LtRhapthorne wrote: So you're double dipping?

Why should I believe anything you say?

PickleJar wrote: Why not tell us you're taking a cut right from the get-go?

Shouldn't you have all your cards on the table (and on the table here, on your site, not buried in Valve's legal writings) if you really want to help everyone get through this to a peaceful conclusion?

Blademaster1215 wrote: The Nexus doesn't take a cut from every paid mod. From the way it's worded, Service Providers can be given donations by the modders, but its the modder's choice to give said cut to whichever providers. Unless I'm reading this wrong?

Thanks a lot for replying, I'm not sure how to react to this tho

EDIT: thinking about I guess it's like the modders are donating instead of paying you, still I'm sure not everyone will see it that way Edited April 24, 2015 by StaciKrash

[TheEyelessWanderer]

I do not believe for a second that Dark0ne has any ulterior motives. I trust that he is making the right moves. In fact, if I were in a position of power, I would use this to my advantage as well.

 

Look at history and see how many battles were won out of cunning calculation, rather than sheer force of opposition. Strictly opposing yourself to the other force is apt to get you flattened. What I see here is more of a leveraging of the inevitable -- Steam wants to monetize mods, knowing full well there exists a holy land ripe with heartfelt modding: Nexus.

 

Nexus does not run on sheer will alone. It most certainly takes vast monetary resources to maintain and preserve this beast -- resources that our enemy, Valve, can and will provide unbeknownst to their ultimate demise.

 

My point is simple: if we're gonna fight this war, let's use their momentum against them. I've been a loyal member of this site (across several accounts, but that's beside the point) for many years and I have faith in its handlers. Cut Dark0ne some slack and remember, this is a very convoluted situation. We will have our closure soon. Very soon.

[Aahzmandias]

In response to post #24600469. #24600889 is also a reply to the same post.

McMuffin wrote:

jediakyrol wrote: Confirmed...all paid mods are unavailable...free mods can still be accessed and downloaded. Somebody is reconsidering their decision by throwing their "test subjects" under the bus.

LOL

[PotatoHunter]

Hey! Since when is the NEXUS taking a CUT from this bullshit! If you guys don't remove yourself from the service providers list and instead side COMPLETELY with us against Valve and Bethesda, then we'll take you down too.

[TheSabi]

In response to post #24599664. #24599799, #24599829, #24599839, #24599979, #24600139, #24600194, #24600244, #24600359, #24600494, #24600539, #24600884, #24600989 are all replies on the same post.

G18AkimboNoob wrote:

Eiries wrote:

However, The Nexus is a listed Service Provider on the curated Workshop, and they are profiting from Workshop sales. They are saying one thing, while simultaneously taking their cut.

I don't see how mentioning "these guys have mods too" constitutes Nexusmods making money off of this (except through traffic which he has no control over.)

Citation from bossman requested.

LtRhapthorne wrote: So Dark0ne is being as greedy as Valve

Unless he personally responds to these accusations, I'm going to ask for my account to be banned. I don't have local copies of my mods. They'll be dead forever.

PickleJar wrote: Yeah, Dark0ne needs to post about this.

LoneHP wrote:

Citation from bossman requested.

No bleeding joke on that. A statement regarding what Chesko revealed is required to begin with, because actual money has likely flowed here over Chesko's (and Fores' ) work with no indication of such.

CiderMuffin wrote: If it's from ad revenue that's an unfair statement for Chesko to make, numerous sites do ad revenue in order to make ends meet. As far as I see it I don't get how the Nexus could make money off of this as they have no part in the transactions. I think this is just Chesko using the negative PR they're getting to hurt someone else out of spite.

Eiries wrote: Chesko's been colossally wrong about a lot of stuff over the past 24 hours so I can't help but feel he's just trying to take the heat off himself and place it on Robin. We'll see, I'm sure he'll say something.

The 3rd Type wrote: http://puu.sh/hpnwE/1fa0ce9998.png

Eiries wrote:

http://puu.sh/hpnwE/1fa0ce9998.png

Totally making bank on this scandal. Totally. Hey dude.

The 3rd Type wrote: Hey Eiries. You ever get around to those Flamer Textures :^)

StaciKrash wrote: Arthmoor is also saying the same about robin

shinkicker404 wrote: link

He did reply to Chesko in Reddit.

teppic1 wrote: " Was this a risky, perhaps bold, thing to go ahead with? Yes. Was it a bit crappy of me? Also yes. But it was a risk I took, and the outcome was largely dependent on the FNIS author's reaction to the situation. He was not happy, so I took steps to resolve it. I did not "steal animations" or "steal content""

I don't agree with this at all. You cannot knowingly use someone else's work without permission for monetary profit and then call it a risk as to whether they would be happy with that or not. It's not his place to do that.

hmm this is AFTER he used someone else assests in a mod and got caught. He's not new to modding, he knws better. This comes off more as make everyone else look like the bad guy whao is me redirecting.

He is quoted in those articles and in his letter he knew FULL WELL he shouldn't be using them and using the scapegoat of valve saying "if the download was separate and free, it was fair game." He admits FNIS isn't needed so he could have waited or just not include them like with Arissa 2.0.

Sorry if I'm not buying "nexus is evil too" after that.

[Milleuros]

In response to post #24596664. #24601034 is also a reply to the same post.

JCDNWarrior wrote:

TheEyelessWanderer wrote: And I'm %100 in agreeance.
This is something far outside the realm of digital tyranny. It speaks a greater story.

(What would the Stormcloaks do?)

Of course. A few days before, I'd be saying that Valve was the only editor who had not made anything against mods. Now the truth is : all video games editors are fighting modding.


Modding is dead.

[Blademaster1215]

In response to post #24601099. #24601154, #24601174, #24601284, #24601304 are all replies on the same post.

CiderMuffin wrote:

merrydownjade wrote: I'm getting this too.
http://i.imgur.com/hIczjJj.png

MrTrigun wrote: Yeah..same here. Only the big bundle seems to be up.

Blademaster1215 wrote: I did say it a few minutes ago, but it got buried.

AlexandruRadu wrote: Same here guys I guess we won after all

Doubtful, could be a DDoS attack though?