Quick updates to the site, money money money edition

[jediakyrol]

In response to post #24600469.

McMuffin wrote:

Confirmed...all paid mods are unavailable...free mods can still be accessed and downloaded. Somebody is reconsidering their decision by throwing their "test subjects" under the bus.

[PickleJar]

In response to post #24600654. #24600674, #24600714, #24600744, #24601069 are all replies on the same post.

StaciKrash wrote:

Dark0ne wrote: This one?

It's not hidden, it's on their service provider listing at the bottom of this page, which explains how it works. Mod authors select service providers who they think helped them in their modding, and in turn, the service provider gets between 1%-5% of Valve's cut of their profits, depending on how many service providers were picked by the mod author.

So the mod author opts in to it themselves, and the money comes from Valve's cut.

LtRhapthorne wrote: He either needs to make the Nexus paid for (killing it) or remove the Nexus as an option for service provider. Otherwise, he's double dipping.

LtRhapthorne wrote: So you're double dipping?

Why should I believe anything you say?

Blademaster1215 wrote: The Nexus doesn't take a cut from every paid mod. From the way it's worded, Service Providers can be given donations by the modders, but its the modder's choice to give said cut to whichever providers. Unless I'm reading this wrong?

Why not tell us you're taking a cut right from the get-go?

Shouldn't you have all your cards on the table (and on the table here, on your site, not buried in Valve's legal writings) if you really want to help everyone get through this to a peaceful conclusion? Edited April 24, 2015 by PickleJar

[Milleuros]

In response to post #24600589.

Braddack wrote:

Just wanna add another Thank you.


Mods being taken down, mods being stolen, paranoia and greed, this is what happens when you add money to the balance. Thanks Nexus for not making Paying mods.

Thanks for the donation system. Users will have the choice. It's much better.

[Aahzmandias]

In response to post #24600569.

Ghostlyhawk wrote:

You can see the "steam support" you get from the example of this case.

If he used the animations without permission of the author, to make MONEY with it, then he violated his copyrights. That is a simple, undeniable truth, in our legal systems today.

Theft is too much to say. He did not steal anything.

As a modder you are alone with all these legal problems, and the upcoming support you have to do in the future, because of the lawsuits to come. The european courts will sue the modauthors.

A much simpler target than steam. If you have an incompatibility with another mod, or, as example, with a new patch in fallout 4, only god is able to help you.

What I am saying is, that this system is so full of loopholes, and potential financial traps, that it has to be shut down immediatly. I personally feel for the mod-author, that he was used by Valve.

The 3rd party DLC system they invented isn't ready at all. Because in modding you WILL have mod conflicts, and you have to refund more, than in any other part that steam sells so far. Otherwise it will attract more customer protection organisations than a piece aof s#*! attracts flies. Edited April 24, 2015 by mkess

[teppic1]

In response to post #24599664. #24599799, #24599829, #24599839, #24599979, #24600139, #24600194, #24600244, #24600359, #24600494, #24600539, #24600884 are all replies on the same post.

G18AkimboNoob wrote:

Eiries wrote:

However, The Nexus is a listed Service Provider on the curated Workshop, and they are profiting from Workshop sales. They are saying one thing, while simultaneously taking their cut.

I don't see how mentioning "these guys have mods too" constitutes Nexusmods making money off of this (except through traffic which he has no control over.)

Citation from bossman requested.

LtRhapthorne wrote: So Dark0ne is being as greedy as Valve

Unless he personally responds to these accusations, I'm going to ask for my account to be banned. I don't have local copies of my mods. They'll be dead forever.

PickleJar wrote: Yeah, Dark0ne needs to post about this.

LoneHP wrote:

Citation from bossman requested.

No bleeding joke on that. A statement regarding what Chesko revealed is required to begin with, because actual money has likely flowed here over Chesko's (and Fores' ) work with no indication of such.

CiderMuffin wrote: If it's from ad revenue that's an unfair statement for Chesko to make, numerous sites do ad revenue in order to make ends meet. As far as I see it I don't get how the Nexus could make money off of this as they have no part in the transactions. I think this is just Chesko using the negative PR they're getting to hurt someone else out of spite.

Eiries wrote: Chesko's been colossally wrong about a lot of stuff over the past 24 hours so I can't help but feel he's just trying to take the heat off himself and place it on Robin. We'll see, I'm sure he'll say something.

The 3rd Type wrote: http://puu.sh/hpnwE/1fa0ce9998.png

Eiries wrote:

http://puu.sh/hpnwE/1fa0ce9998.png

Totally making bank on this scandal. Totally. Hey dude.

The 3rd Type wrote: Hey Eiries. You ever get around to those Flamer Textures :^)

StaciKrash wrote: Arthmoor is also saying the same about robin

shinkicker404 wrote: link

He did reply to Chesko in Reddit.

" Was this a risky, perhaps bold, thing to go ahead with? Yes. Was it a bit crappy of me? Also yes. But it was a risk I took, and the outcome was largely dependent on the FNIS author's reaction to the situation. He was not happy, so I took steps to resolve it. I did not "steal animations" or "steal content""

I don't agree with this at all. You cannot knowingly use someone else's work without permission for monetary profit and then call it a risk as to whether they would be happy with that or not. It's not his place to do that. Edited April 24, 2015 by teppic1

[TheEyelessWanderer]

In response to post #24596664.

JCDNWarrior wrote:

And I'm %100 in agreeance.
This is something far outside the realm of digital tyranny. It speaks a greater story.

(What would the Stormcloaks do?)

[Blademaster1215]

In response to post #24600654. #24600674, #24600714, #24600744, #24600914 are all replies on the same post.

StaciKrash wrote:

Dark0ne wrote: This one?

It's not hidden, it's on their service provider listing at the bottom of this page, which explains how it works. Mod authors select service providers who they think helped them in their modding, and in turn, the service provider gets between 1%-5% of Valve's cut of their profits, depending on how many service providers were picked by the mod author.

So the mod author opts in to it themselves, and the money comes from Valve's cut.

LtRhapthorne wrote: He either needs to make the Nexus paid for (killing it) or remove the Nexus as an option for service provider. Otherwise, he's double dipping.

LtRhapthorne wrote: So you're double dipping?

Why should I believe anything you say?

PickleJar wrote: Why not tell us you're taking a cut right from the get-go?

Shouldn't you have all your cards on the table if you really want to help everyone get through this to a peaceful conclusion?

The Nexus doesn't take a cut from every paid mod. From the way it's worded, Service Providers can be given donations by the modders, but its the modder's choice to give said cut to whichever providers. Unless I'm reading this wrong?

[CiderMuffin]

Hey everyone, do me a favor. Go to the paid section of the steam workshop and tell me if everything you click comes up as a "this item is no longer available message" I think Valve and Bethesda are actually listening to use and taking down the system.

[merrydownjade]

In response to post #24601099.

CiderMuffin wrote:

I'm getting this too.
http://i.imgur.com/hIczjJj.png

[LexiSubZero]

In response to post #24601099. #24601154 is also a reply to the same post.

CiderMuffin wrote:

merrydownjade wrote: I'm getting this too.
http://i.imgur.com/hIczjJj.png

Yeah..same here. Only the big bundle seems to be up.