Steam Service Providers, and some how needing to clarify the Nexus stance again

[phantompally76]

In response to post #24662889. #24662979, #24663134, #24664289, #24664594 are all replies on the same post.

Brumbek wrote:

digitaltrucker wrote: ...and another one goes. Good luck...

Ventry wrote: If the free version here and the SW version are one and the same.
Then you have my support and best wishes and perhaps donation.
However if SW version has content that the free version here does not then that's a different kettle of fish altogether.

lelouch107 wrote: He posted on his page that the most up to date version will alwaysbe free on nexus..only steam version charges for 'convenience'. Honestly I'm ok with that model.

WightMage wrote: Just keep in mind that once its on Steam, you will not be able to remove it unless Valve is pressured legally. You should read the fine print and make sure you're allowed to have the same version of both mods in two different locations.

That's very unfortunate. Was hoping you wouldn't buy into this Ponzi scheme.

Nothing personal Brumbek, as stated earlier, I like SMIM. But I will be unendorsing and uninstalling it and using texture mods from non-paywall authors. No offense intended to you, and I wish you the best of luck in your quest for money.

[arxerisdam]

Selling mods as "DLC's" is the most stupid idea i ever see.

1.- a lot of mods depends on the works of others

2.- valve is trying to tie up all the people who create the tools for modding to be possible and i bet they are offering them a cut of the money from the mods.

3.- No one is going to let other people use their mods to make money is ridiculous, thats why chesko have problems he should have thinkl twice before going oh yeah lets ëxperiment"i bet he did it with all the intention to win some money.

 

4.- elder scrolls CK is the worst i ever seen it doesnt have enough power, if we compare the tools of neverwinter nigths from bioware vs CK of bethesta well.

 

Well bioware have the best modding tools, you could build entire worlds with that, just one example was turmish lands! the place was huge, with their own magic scripts, player housing, almost an entire continent, full of quests.

those servers were running with donations and all.

 

Unless bethesta give players that kind of power (with i really doubt since the CK of oblivion and skyrim aremostly the same and they will not spend in doing anything better).

 

Well even bioware only sold 2 or 3 mods as dlcs and that was it.

 

it didnt stick i dont think this will either because lets face it, soon or later all the people who create the tools to make the mods possible will end up fighting each other because the dish neighbor is fuller than theirs.

 

is just a matter of time.

 

oh and dont forget the resource creators xD how many mods arer based on those.... lets start calling the lawyers!

 

5.- and final next elder scrolls people will only buy and play the game and thats it, only a fool will waste money on mods really.

 

just like the video d4rkoverlord post, next they start selling bug fixes HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[pshahab48]

In response to post #24664619.

arxerisdam wrote:

"DLC ;)

[Ryker61]

In response to post #24663854. #24664244, #24664334 are all replies on the same post.

Ryker61 wrote:

WightMage wrote: Sauce?

Who filed it? Was it another modder?

Will we need to backup our versions of Wet & Cold before the take down notices appear here?

WightMage wrote: Oh my God: https://archive.is/ayjaw

Regardless of my personal feelings regarding Isoku, this really sucks.

I took a screen cap of his W&C SW page, but I have no way of posting it here. You'll have to go and check it for yourself.

The notification is at the top of the page. There's no indication as to the identity of the individual who filed the DMCA.

I highly doubt a DMCA will be filed here on the Nexus. My suspicion is that the DMCA was filed over recent paid mod fiasco.

[Deleted3507349User]

Dark0ne:

 

I have read your post several times and given it great thought. Sadly, I have come to the following conclusion.

 

You are willingly profiting from the Steam model. The fact that it is indirectly is irrelevant, no-one coerced you into it. You cannot justifiably claim to oppose something you are willingly taking part in. In the past, I have always seen you doing your best to take the high moral ground with great integrity. In this, that same integrity should dictate that you do not in any way take part in this. As long as this is the case; sadly I must view you and the Nexus in the same light I now view Steam, Bethesda, and their parent companies.

 

It is my sincere hope that Bethesda, whom I view to be ultimately responsible in the light of all the information that has come to light from yourself, Gabe Newell, and others, will waste no time in reversing this before the damage done to the modding community in general is irreparable (if it's not already).

 

If they do not, own integrity and core beliefs demand that I remove myself and my mods from the Nexus in addition to ceasing all patronage of Steam and Bethesda.

[DrGonzo31]

In response to post #24663854. #24664244, #24664334, #24664879 are all replies on the same post.

Ryker61 wrote:

WightMage wrote: Sauce?

Who filed it? Was it another modder?

Will we need to backup our versions of Wet & Cold before the take down notices appear here?

WightMage wrote: Oh my God: https://archive.is/ayjaw

Regardless of my personal feelings regarding Isoku, this really sucks.

Ryker61 wrote: I took a screen cap of his W&C SW page, but I have no way of posting it here. You'll have to go and check it for yourself.

The notification is at the top of the page. There's no indication as to the identity of the individual who filed the DMCA.

I highly doubt a DMCA will be filed here on the Nexus. My suspicion is that the DMCA was filed over recent paid mod fiasco.

I'm guessing it wasn't actually the mod author who uploaded that for sale, but some jagoff looking to make money off someone else's work. That's really my big fear here: what's to stop someone from taking someone else's mod and selling it on steam? Maybe because I don't use the Workshop there's a few pieces I'm missing, but that's what I see causing the whole thing to go pear shaped.

[DrGonzo31]

In response to post #24663179.

digitaltrucker wrote:

Chesko? What happened there? o.O

[WightMage]

In response to post #24663179. #24665119 is also a reply to the same post.

digitaltrucker wrote:

DrGonzo31 wrote: Chesko? What happened there? o.O

He tried to pull all his mods from SW when the s#*! hit the fan... and was only then told by Valve's lawyer that they will not unless legally obligated to do so.

He was, by his own words, "beside myself with anger," because he felt that Arissa 2.0 was entirely his (and Griefmyst's) work.

Well, not anymore. And actually, this brings up another issue- if you upload a mod for sale on SW, and try to upload the exact same mod, same version and all, on Nexus, isn't that a clear Conflict of Interest? Furthermore, given how Valve legal responded to Chesko, it's highly likely that he will never be able to reupload Arissa 2.0 on Nexus or even his own website, since its no longer his property, if it ever was to begin with.

Let that be a warning to everyone who decides to deal with Valve/Bethesda: READ THE FINE PRINT.

[Deleted3507349User]

In response to post #24663179. #24665119, #24665174 are all replies on the same post.

digitaltrucker wrote:

DrGonzo31 wrote: Chesko? What happened there? o.O

WightMage wrote: He tried to pull all his mods from SW when the s#*! hit the fan... and was only then told by Valve's lawyer that they will not unless legally obligated to do so.

He was, by his own words, "beside myself with anger," because he felt that Arissa 2.0 was entirely his (and Griefmyst's) work.

Well, not anymore. And actually, this brings up another issue- if you upload a mod for sale on SW, and try to upload the exact same mod, same version and all, on Nexus, isn't that a clear Conflict of Interest? Furthermore, given how Valve legal responded to Chesko, it's highly likely that he will never be able to reupload Arissa 2.0 on Nexus or even his own website, since its no longer his property, if it ever was to begin with.

Let that be a warning to everyone who decides to deal with Valve/Bethesda: READ THE FINE PRINT.

explains it all.

[WightMage]

In response to post #24663854. #24664244, #24664334, #24664879, #24665094 are all replies on the same post.

Ryker61 wrote:

WightMage wrote: Sauce?

Who filed it? Was it another modder?

Will we need to backup our versions of Wet & Cold before the take down notices appear here?

WightMage wrote: Oh my God: https://archive.is/ayjaw

Regardless of my personal feelings regarding Isoku, this really sucks.

Ryker61 wrote: I took a screen cap of his W&C SW page, but I have no way of posting it here. You'll have to go and check it for yourself.

The notification is at the top of the page. There's no indication as to the identity of the individual who filed the DMCA.

I highly doubt a DMCA will be filed here on the Nexus. My suspicion is that the DMCA was filed over recent paid mod fiasco.

DrGonzo31 wrote: I'm guessing it wasn't actually the mod author who uploaded that for sale, but some jagoff looking to make money off someone else's work. That's really my big fear here: what's to stop someone from taking someone else's mod and selling it on steam? Maybe because I don't use the Workshop there's a few pieces I'm missing, but that's what I see causing the whole thing to go pear shaped.

No dude, that was totally Isoku himself who uploaded Wet and Cold. The only problem is, like Chesko, he forgit that most of his work uses assets made by OTHER modders to begin with, for free.

More likely than not, one of them filed that DMCA.