hoofhearted4 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 i do only have one GPU. see no issue fitting in two. have two HDDs and an SSD, no issues with heat, or space. i will say with all the extensions I have for braided cables, and all the extra fans, the space in the back is a little tight, but unless you want more than two GPUs, a 1200W PSU (since those are longer) and more than one Rad, a Midi is plenty big enough. i doubt my next case will be bigger. wouldnt want a bigger case. this case was actually bigger than i thought....that said i want my next case to be a desk. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper24 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Sorry. I just dont know anything about PSUs. I thought Corsair was of good quality. so 550-650w will be alright? How will extra wattage effect the machine? Is it okay to have some extra but not a lot? What about this? It is a step up from the CS series, certified 80+ Gold, and is a plentiful wattage. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139060 Just like almost any other brand, Corsair PSUs range from excellent to below average. Never trust a brand name, only look at the specific models. :wink: 550-650W will give you a lot of room for OC experiments. For comparison: I'm running a Xeon E3-1230 v3 with a GTX 780 OC on a 450W Seasonic G-450 PSU without any problems. Even with Prime and Furmark running at the same time, the system only draws ~380W out of the outlet. An OCed i5 will need a bit more power than the Xeon, but the GTX 970 needs a bit less than the GTX 780, so your total power consumption should be roughly the same (10-20 Watts give or take). Should you ever wish to run SLI, a little more wattage may eventually be needed, although 650W is usually enough for two GTX 970s. A bigger PSU won't give you real disadvantages, it will just be running at a much lower efficiency when the system is running in idle mode (browsing the Internet, doing Office work etc.), so this will result in a few extra $ per year on your power bill. The Corsair CS is significantly better than the CX, but I just noticed it also uses a cheap sleeve bearing fan (which are not known for longevity) and rather mediocre quality capacitors. The other PSUs in my list are of better technical quality than the CS series, although the CS is by no means a bad unit. The Seasonic G-Series, Antec Edge and XFX XTR are technically identical, as they all use the same and very good Seasonic platform. Seasonic is one of the very few brands that actually build their own PSUs and sell them under their own name as well as being an OEM for other companies (others would be Super Flower, FSP/Fortron or HEC/Cougar). Almost all other brands like Corsair, Cooler Master, Rosewill, EVGA, Antec etc. don't build their PSUs themselves but use different OEMs for their units. So, in my list we got three different units based on the Seasonic G-Series. The Cooler Master VS is also a very good unit built by Enhance, while the Seasonic X is already a high end platform. None of these units have any real disadvantages. The Seasonic G and Cooler Master VS use a 2BB fan (dual ball bearing) and are semi-modular. The Antec Edge and the XFX XTR are fully modular and use an FDB fan (fluid dynamic bearing). Additionally the XFX is also semi-passive, which means the fan will only spin at loads above 20% or temperatures above 77°F, whichever comes first. The only thing worth mentioning is that the fan is a bit overpowered and tends to get very loud at higher loads. Seasonic X is also fully modular and has a semi-passive mode. Based on the current prices, the XFX would be my favorite choice if noise level doesn't matter too much. If it does, I'd go for the Antec Edge. Edit: Here's a review of the XFX XTR 650 which confirms what I mentioned above: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/XFX/XTR650/ Edit2: While gaming, your rig should consume around 300W, so the XFX would still be operating at a rather quiet level. Edited May 8, 2015 by Sniper24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipjack647 Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Ok. After reading, it seems a 500-550w will be enough for SLI if I did it and extras if I added them. Correct? I will look through your list. Just from reading it seems sither the Antec Edge or the XFX will be a good choice. Ill get back to yall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipjack647 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Ok. I think I like the XFX 650w. I think that is what Im going to get. Do I need to show a updated list? Also, is there any new generations of CPUs or GPUs that I need to know about? I wont be building this for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 make sure your PSU is modular. I didnt read FMods post, too long, so he might have said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipjack647 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 He did. I think mine(the XFX) will do well. Ill post an ipfated list later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipjack647 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Mobo: ASUS Z97 PRO GAMERhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132412 CPU: Intel I5 4690khttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116989 RAM: GSkill ARES 18gb(2x8) 2133mhzhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231659 GPU: MSI GTX 970 4gb VRAM HDD: Western Digital 1TB 64mg cahce 7200rpmhttps://www.google.com/shopping/product/4124869370773973652?q=Western+Digital+1tb+7200+rpm&safe=off&biw=1440&bih=763&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.91665533,d.cGU&tch=1&ech=1&psi=f5k9VcvuC83soAS9kYCAAw.1430100353776.3&prds=paur:ClkAsKraXwUaR8Xqpnt6hBKL25C3nCzd56loglJ0MKM9cMKK8I2qYglprjRYbeOF_3npHZaU6WeZMRgHtMQy246AwGZLXkvsVRSfBSYhA5UeUy5cYaW1g1O2VRIZAFPVH70zdBIoJN1k04FX2brGXbsckqwu8Q&ei=g5k9VeXwIdLFogTb-oHYCw&ved=0CLMEEKYrMAI SSD: Crucial MX200 250gbhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148948 PSU:XFX XTR series 650whttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207031 Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352031--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That about clears it for the actual box. Now onto peripherals. I really only want a nice 1080p, 144hz, monitor. I dont know a good gaming size. Mouse and Keyboard I will take suggestions on for a good and nice one, but a cheap HP mouse ad board is going to be the first things. EDIT: I was thinking this was a good monitorhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313 is the 24 inch size a "good" gaming size? Edited May 9, 2015 by Skipjack647 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMod Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 The XFX is tolerable, I guess, there are better PSU out there though. Good 144Hz displays are harder to find than it may seem. Also, you meant, or should have meant, 120+ Hz. Generally it's mostly Asus that does 144 rather than 120 and Asus lets their display quality slide more than other makers. Whether 24" is OK depends on the user. For a few years I used to think I was done with 24", but they're phasing these out in the office now, so now I'm trying to think of a reason to grab a couple as a freebie. The best monitor size is the largest your space can fit and your GPU can feed, as long as the pixels don't get visibly large or as long as you're not bothered by how large they're getting (the pixels, not the screens; the 970 supports 2560x1440 at ease). Given a good amount of space, 24" was the size to get as recently as 2005. Today, yes, you can still use that, but with how much display choice there is out there, there's plenty more to look out for.You can get ultra-widescreen 34" that give a bit of a surround effect: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4JH2UH4372You can get 39" screens that will do 144Hz at 1080p and 60Hz at 2560x1440: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4JH2UW4069There's plenty of interesting displays you can get today.If nothing else, you can get an older Crossover and overclock it to 120 Hz. At least it will be 2560 resolution, not 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipjack647 Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 You said the XFX was a good option though If ASUS slides alot, what is a brand I know makes a good one? For screens, I think a 26 will do. I dont want to take a whole second to go from corner to corner. I only want single screen gaming anyway. All I want is 1080p. The 4k and all is too expensive and I want as much VRAM as possible for mods while still retaining visual quality(1080p at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoofhearted4 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Dell makes some awesome monitors. BenQ is high quality, though price reflects it. Ive been looking into Ultra-Wide myself. or 1440p i havent decided. i personally dont mind 60fps. so a 120Hz+ monitor isnt desireable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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