MoonSpot Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) This is more of a thought than a request for help. I think there may be an additional way to ease donations from the user(example myself)Could there be a means to donate to a collection of mod authors in one transaction? I've more than a few and both like & dislike rewarding the individual as opposed to a group/inner-community.I am going through my mod list over the weekend and sorting out who and how much my games been enriched by each, and how much I'm able to manage/feel each is worth (blah blah blah etc). But I'm not particularly excited about spending an hour or more finding each page and going through dozens of individual transactions while consulting a spreadsheet. Just Seems that there may be an opportunity to make donations a bit easier from the users perspective. for example, if the list of the users downloaded mods comes up under a master donate button, and we can just enter in amounts into fields, submit and solider on. "I" think it could be better/faster. Or am I just out to lunch by myself again? P.S. Pound Sterlings are particularly...painful. Dark0ne please move to a poor backward country(like Canada) J/k....(no seriously, do it). Edited May 1, 2015 by MoonSpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragyn Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Dark0ne is looking into trying to support Patreon, it seemsIf that works, and authors make Patreon accounts, you'd be able to choose a particular amount you want to have automatically sent to any number of authors each month. Very convenient.Also circumvents Paypal's gouging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonSpot Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 @Shadow_Dragyn Well if patreon allows for 1 off donations, then sure. But I don't see a monthly payment plan as a positive for most to be frank, in terms of people and not amount of money that is. I'm personally not remotely interested in an additional bill every month.But more options makes for more better, different strokes and what have you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDragyn Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 You can pay out a dollar a month, if you want. The beautiful part of it is that you can send out trivial amounts, even out to massive numbers of people, and have it all be automated. I have no idea if there's any minimum amount. At the very least, I've found nothing saying there is.I know for a fact though that you can give only a single dollar per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WightMage Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Maybe this topic should be stickied... I'm glad to see people are taking this seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonSpot Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) @Shadow_Dragyn Well if patreon allows for 1 off donations, then sure. But I don't see a monthly payment plan as a positive for most to be frank, in terms of people and not amount of money that is. I'm personally not remotely interested in an additional bill every month.But more options makes for more better, different strokes and what have you. Which is precisely why I myself would never opt to donate monthly, particularly in such a fashion. A dollar a month to a dozen authors is $144 a year. Since the money is being transferred automagically could end up supporting for several years. A nice option to have for those that want to support others in that manner, but not one everyone (or most IMO) will care for. I'm not particularly interested in eating canned food and KD for the other half of the year to subsidize such a tax on an ongoing basis, if you catch my drift. I was thinking more along the lines of a one time chunk donation, and checking off 2 dozen mods/authors for it to be divided for. Much easier for the end user to submit to something like that. However grouping and the participating authors financials for a payout at the end of the month or whatever probably isn't an easy undertaking. Edited May 1, 2015 by MoonSpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiteBeast Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 There's also the issue of fees, each modder has their own account and I would think there would be a fee per transaction to those account, even if coming from a lump sump payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonSpot Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 There's also the issue of fees, each modder has their own account and I would think there would be a fee per transaction to those account, even if coming from a lump sump payment.If it's less than 30%-70% then it's better then what was offered before. Strictly margin wise, doubtful end profit would be better than what steam could bring to modders. The fees under a different model may not be the best either, sure. But making it easier for money to leave point A is the first and most important step. In this regard steam was obviously a really good platform. Now doing some poking around, I think that this idea has some pretty good points to consider. Under Paypal's business accounts the cost per incoming transaction is 2.9%, cool. Plus an additional $0.30 per transaction on top of that 2.9%, not cool. Small donations get hit fairly hard. (business account fees)If however people are able to go through and donate $60-$100 for example in 1 transaction to several authors and then payout to the authors biweekly/monthly for whatever the ledger says, then it could be an easier experience for the user and help mitigate the transaction costs overall. Now specifically for your comment; there would one transaction from user to "the pot" which the 2.9% stays the same, but cuts the duplication of the $0.30 portion. Then the 2.9% may be duplicated from the pot to content creator with a single $0.30 fee. WITHOUT ANY ACTUAL DATA OR ACCOUNTING FOR HOLDING/MANAGING COSTS, I would assume in the aggregate it would be a net positive. Could depend a lot on the success of the system chosen to enable users to more easily donate. Or I could be dumping hogwash as this is my opinion and what I think makes it easier for me to donate to a larger number of individuals in the community. *Note I'm aware saying that is infinitely easier then securing and doing such a thing, and that this part of the transaction is none of my business/concern. Just throwing idea's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted943341User Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 as feedback: I've done my donations (multiple small ones to different mods, but I think still more then they get from Valve with a 25% Cut ;) ).I hope enough people participate in this. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleous87 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 This is my first post on the forums and I just want to say I fully support this donation drive. I believe a Modder appreciation week should be every month so we never forget about it. I am very new to both Skyrim(only been playing since last year) and Mods for it(only started a little less than a month ago) but have probably close to 1k mods in my library. I have very meager earnings but I pledge to donate $10 right now to my favorites and another $10 to $20 every month for as long as I am able, hopefully at least a year. Thank you to all those Modder's who make this game so great and to those who have donated already. I am only sorry I can only donate so little. Thank you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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