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In response to post #24742594. #24742759, #24742849, #24742924, #24742934, #24743009, #24743059, #24743149, #24743254, #24743299, #24743359, #24743449, #24743474, #24743514, #24743524, #24743584 are all replies on the same post.


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FavoredSoul, I don't hate you.

I'm just very disappointed with you.

I don't expect you to lose any sleep over that.

I'm not going to lose any sleep, either.
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Such a key point, totally agree!! Edited by sunshinenbrick
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That isn't what the complaint here is. It's this idea that modders should never be given the option to be paid because the mod-user is entitled to free content for no reason. This simply isn't true or fair. And it's wholly disrespectful and incredibly insensitive to treat those who are giving handouts like dogshit.
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Reading through this thread I'm feeling somewhat nauseated. Want your mods to be free? Cool. Want your mods to be paid for? Also cool, your perogative. Complaining that the companies that would legitimize this desire by introducing a system where it was 'mandatory' are pulling out so your desire for money is no longer justified and so you can't stand by it anymore? Ew. Just ew. It was okay to ask for money when people would have been 'forced' by huge companies at your back to comply? So you could shrug and go 'well I didn't want this, it's just the way it is, is benefitting from the actions of forces greater than us really so bad?' Nah man, that's pretty twisted. Either you think your mod is worth money, in which case there are ways you can implement this on your own, or you don't in which case this news is either good or neutral.

 

But this? Icky man, icky.

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Steam and Bethesda simply weren't ready for this step. You can't just put up a pay barrier the way they did for community created content. I've worked with many companies that do this and they have patients on all kinds of complex systems to protect modders and consumers from all sorts of issues.

 

Any game or system that is going to charge money needs to have a whole system designed around it to prevent fraud, concept / asset theft and people working around paying. The corporations need an entire support staff for community problems, and air tight system for secure data to go onto peoples games. With Mods like Skyrim none of this encrypted security existed and anyone could have easily gotten a popular mod and inserted it manually.

 

I think Steam and Bethesda just realized they were not ready for this yet and it was a too big of a headache to make it financially worth while - so they shut down their experiment.

 

In pay systems that do work - The really good People can make good money off of their Community created content in the right environment. (although most 'good' people just make enough to mildly supplement a regular monthly income) However any cash rewards those who do work is good enough to pay a small fee for. Those creators who aren't good soon learn they must go free or improve their work because nobody purchases their work. But if a modder is good enough for a few million people to download their work - they're probably making content worth paying a few bucks for.

 

But all this discussion is neither here nor there - because this partnership was simply too undeveloped in its infancy. A good experiment, and like many new failed things, I hope they learned something useful from it all.

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In response to post #24738304. #24738404, #24738464, #24738479, #24738524, #24738604, #24738659, #24738679, #24738694, #24738739, #24738779, #24738799, #24738804, #24738919, #24738944, #24738974, #24739104, #24739184, #24739199, #24739204, #24739289, #24739329, #24739359, #24739394, #24739409, #24739474, #24739514, #24739544, #24739564, #24739609, #24739619, #24739639, #24739689, #24739759, #24739784, #24739884, #24739949, #24739999, #24740019, #24740029, #24740039, #24740124, #24740139, #24740174, #24740184, #24740199, #24740234, #24740349, #24740469, #24740494, #24740509, #24740569, #24740579, #24740584, #24740694, #24740734, #24740789, #24740809, #24740814, #24740834, #24740844, #24740859, #24740899, #24740939, #24740959, #24741039, #24741074, #24741079, #24741154, #24741159, #24741164, #24741289, #24741369, #24741419, #24741429, #24741444, #24741449, #24741529, #24741644, #24741674, #24741699, #24741714, #24741744, #24741754, #24741764, #24741784, #24741804, #24741884, #24741959, #24742024, #24742104, #24742119, #24742154, #24742169, #24742194, #24742314, #24742444, #24742464, #24742489, #24742509, #24742524, #24742564, #24742579, #24742634, #24742744, #24742799, #24742804, #24742964, #24743039, #24743319, #24743439, #24743614 are all replies on the same post.


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funny thing is, I voted against the paid mod because valve is gets a bigger share than the modder.. just saying...
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wow, that was quick. I expected this was going to happen, the reaction mirrored the Xbox one announcement debacle too much, but DAMN that was fast

 

as I said before, it would have been wise to wait till FO4 to try this to soften the blow, oh well

 

sure hope those battle lines can be erased as easy as they were drawn, I'd hate to see talented modders walk away with tarnished reputations over this

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That is a rather minority stance here. I think you will find most people at the Nexus are in favour of the option to give back to those they want to give back to.

EDIT: Isn't it actually technicaly, probably illegal to be even having these conversations now Bethesda has pulled the rug? Edited by sunshinenbrick
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I disagree, Orgaya.

We were given the content. That's not a feeling of entitlement.

If you and I were hanging out and I gave you one of my beers, I can't tell the rest of my friends that you're an entitled piece of crap because you took it.

Let's not forget that up until three days ago, most of us here thought all the mod authors were perfectly fine with the way things were going. We've been thriving for four years, for Christ's sake.

I don't think that point gets brought up enough
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