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That may very well be true, I haven't been following the discussion on any forums. Of course there is entitlement. People have been playing with free mods for years and now they were threatened to have to pay. That is quite literally taking something away, and I can't rightfully blame them for the entitlement they felt.

But you mustn't forget that this toxicity didn't just pop up out of nowhere, aimed at modders for no particular reason. Valve and Bethesda, in what they did, created the situation and created this hatred through tactics of unwarranted greed. Before this, mod authors didn't mass-migrate to pay services because they felt that they should; easy, effortless payment made it a threat.

Modders are not our slaves. They do not have to do anything. They do what they do because they enjoy doing it. If they don't enjoy it, they don't do it. If they become disillusioned, they don't do it. But there is no 'have to' AT ALL in a free-for-everyone community. If compensation is important and money is tight, I hope they'll be vocal about it and do what they can to make people donate.

Tl;dr: Blame should be directed at the people that created this situation. Of course emotional debates will bring out the extremes.
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You just said my main point FavoredSoul the trolls are EVERYWHERE. They were before this and will be after this. The entire world is their domain as it is anyone else's. An ******** will continue to exist for the foreseeable future. Unless we somehow end up a docile race with no emotion of our own volition (Vulcans). Either that or the world ends and in that case I don't think anyone will be sweating what's going on with the internet all that much at that point.
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Probably the consoles, too. I'm also pretty sure they're only using the workshop data. I seriously doubt only 8% of the people playing Skyrim on PC are using mods.
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. Edited by SiniVII
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There's no way that's an accurate statement, and frankly I don't think there's any way they can make an accurate statement.
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SkyUI Download unique counts: near to 4.5 million - Comments: near to 15k plus 242 threads where mostly are 0 from 10 replies. Looks more worse.

PS: I edited to "." because I replied back to my original post.
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@mannygt

Are you saying those 10 and 20 who didn't endorse are simply mod-hoggers and ungrateful bastards? And you're relying on your own statistic to push this blanket-statement? I'm sorry but you've got nothing. Word of mouth, It's rather powerful. One of those 10 people might've spread the word about the mod which made the number increase to every 20 person instead of 10, and thanks to word of mouth they may have attracted another endorser which made your oh-so precious counter to rise ever so slightly.

Obsessing over the endorsement counter is the most asinine way I've seen to determine whether or not your mod is popular, because IF there is anything your statistics have shown us is that the endorsement counter is simply not an accurate measurement of people's enjoyment of a mod.

Download counts and comments is what you should use as your indicator of popularity, you check the statistic of how many times they've been downloaded vs the feedback you receive in the comments, that gives you a measurement of a mods popularity, NOT through a counter people tend to click as a courtesy as if you were tipping a waiter at a restaurant.
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Yes Favored, how dare people ask you to make things. Truly we are an entitled species when we ask things of people, frankly I say we should nuke ourselves out of existence. Edited by Tarathiel_Torosir
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I answered you in the other post.
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The one thing consistently expressed here, that I absolutely agree with, is that this entire affair is NOT a proud moment for this community.

 

Have been quietly putting up with all the loud screaming and ranting going on from all sides. Until now. Honestly, how many of you are actually paying attention to what you are saying? Or to what other people are saying? From where I sit, not many.

 

I am strongly tempted to wish a plague upon ALL your houses.

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