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I know. I never said they can't make money. You are mis- paraphrazing Edited by greggorypeccary
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@Dark0ne

 

I can't help but feel you were saying nice things to help them off the stage given they have now lost.

 

No, it doesn't make me feel bad for Bestheda at all reading what they say. The 45% cut made their intentions all too clear. For what they did no work on, they wanted by far the largest cut. This is rampant greed. If they truly care about modders, then they would not have demanded such a large cut for themselves and leave so little to the ones who actually did the work.

 

@Nightasy

 

I understand you want to be compensated but do understand that you are not in any way being cheated by the community. Just as you've contributed your hard work to Nexus, you also are entitled to the work of others from Nexus. Had everyone monetized their own mods, you'd find your gaming experience in TES titles to be much degraded. Imagine playing without SkyUI, OOO, Midas Magic, etc, etc, etc because they all cost $5+ each.

 

In addition, I'd also want to say that modding is not a good means of earning money. Even with the Valve-Bestheda system, I cannot envision most modders to make anything. Not only will there be free mods competing with your work, the difference between one dollar and no cost is huge when it comes to incentives to download. Not to mention, the 25% cut is just too low. As a modder myself, I refuse to participate in such an exploitative system.

 

Personally, the rewards of my modding endeavors take the form of a portfolio. It helped me to get a job in IBM 3 years ago and that's more than anything I'd have asked for in return for my efforts.

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Dear Dark0ne;

 

I just wanted to make a public apology to you. I had taken a militant approach during this fiasco and said some things that were kinda out there and in other cases completely wrong. Passion got the best of me. Although I stand by my core argument I obviously made some errors in judgement and how I chose to express myself and for that I am sorry.

 

Cheers

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@bullpcp Well the mod is already next to perfect, so the benefits of that are negligible, and compared to the damage it would cause... definitely not worth it. Edited by ReconTA
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quote : "I suppose you could make money from ads if you allowed them inside the actual mod... I am not sure of the legality of that however, interesting thought."
Argh no please not that ! some brand have already much more ad they deserve in bethesda games (nuka cola ? ^^ )
I'm just speaking of a "generic" web banner on the mod page, no more, no less.

Do not expect to be rich with this, but you still can have some $ reward.
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What I mean is, if you don't like it, DO something abut it instead of complaining about it, that will never get you anywhere. There are always other options! :)
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@ macintroll

Ha! No, I don't like the idea myself either, just thinking aloud :)

EDIT: I could cope with a banner. Beats some of the noisey video ADS you get, not that I see them when logged in.

EDIT2: MODS?! I meant ADS... it's been a busy few days. Typo fixed now *blush* Edited by sunshinenbrick
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With the proper vetting and approach paid modding could work and be a benefit to our modding community. Do I agree with or like the way this particular case was handled? no. I recently listened to several podcasts that Gopher released on sound cloud and I have to say that if an approach was taken that resembled what he suggests in them I would probably consider paying for mods. the key though is that paid mods would have to have an added value to the game and be new and unique not an update to a new mod.

 

Put it this way. If Falkskaar was originally released as a paid mod, would you have paid for it? how many of us shelled out extra cash for HearthFires? when Falkskaar adds 3-5 times the content? Falksaar adds almost as much new areas and questlines as Dawngaurd and Dragonborn combined. Given some additional incentive by knowing that they would be compensated the mod author could have gotten better quality voice acting, better integrated it with Skyrim and a whole lot more.

 

Bethesda could have probably bought the mod from the author, polished it and then released it as a DLC and people would have bought it.

 

I am not saying that we should all put a price tag on mods or not support free modding. What I am saying is that I think that done properly that both could coexist.

 

 

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