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Most of those were just afraid their mods and the future modding community would go and hide behind a paywall. Also it didn't help that they launched it on steam, the problems with early access, greenlight, the open sewer gates policy on the store and even the steam workshop itself as a service, did not fill the community with a lot of faith in what this would turn out to be. And reading about the 24 hour return policy didn't exactly fill many with faith. I mean it basically was a statement that either said: "we don't understand mods. And we don't understand that you might not have the time to immediately go play the game." or "We don't care that you are left with broken stuff." Edited by chaotix14
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This could only have ended one way - divisively.

 

I never liked the deal Valve and Bethesda were offering, and I don't think direct sale of mods developed in a collaborative environment could ever have worked, but this conclusion is a harsh reminder to mod creators that they are not amongst the people permitted to profit from their own work.

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My personal opinion - it is good that paid smods were removed from steam. While I'm actualy agree that mod authors shoul be able to sell their work, steam realisation was atrocious. Author get ridiculously small amount of money, it was locked inside steam and it give absolutely no protection to neither consumer nor mod author, and actually created situation where creating one shitty bra after another and throughing it nonstop in the workshop was much more preferable then creating one big mod.

 

I think Valve and Bethesda should have created some new open market resourse which wouldn't depend on steam and its tools in collaboration with other mod friendly companies. With strict moderation and quality control and also rules that would force modder to support mods during all active game patch cycle. And preferably also some legal protection for modders from other companies. That would have been much better for both authors(easier to create big projects, protection from harrasments) and consumers (profeccional quality mods, some sort of garanties from bethesda and valve)

 

Sorry for my English. Its not my native language

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You haven't seen entitled users until you accept their money. :P
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Agreed. When one leaves, two will take his place. Many, many mods are created every day, and will continue to be created until the end of time. After reading through this lengthy post, I will say that I do feel you left something out.

You didn't mention the mod authors who ONLY decided to release the updates on Steam for $$$, then once the cash vanished, decided it wasn't worth their time. And now that the $$$ for mods debacle is over, will never release their updates due to spite. I will never support modders who think they should be paid for their work.

Is it hard? I couldn't even imagine how difficult it is to create such works of art. Is it their job? NO. That's what people don't seem to understand. IT IS A HOBBY.
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should have been a 1 week trial..some mods wont show that its s#*! till you're half way there..

@ oldnotweak some people that did not want the paywall is due to the cut modders were having. though we were outnumbered by people that wanted it for free forever.
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I usually don't post on things like this because I can typically find better uses of my time, but on this comment in particular I feel inclined to do so. It seems to me that your post only focuses on the negatives of the community and not the positives. Being pessimistic in nature, this is rare for me to say, but it is so blatantly apparent here I felt the need to point it out. Not once in my entire time on the internet have I bashed a mod author for their work, even if I didn't like what they had made. I either gave my praise or I shut up and moved on.

Additionally, although I wasn't outspoken about this "paywall" issue, I did sign a petition against it. I didn't sign it because I was against mod authors charging for their mods, I signed it because a super-corporation wanted to take 75% of the mod author's hard earned money. Well, that's not the only reason, there was also mod stealing and absolutely 0 quality control for what was posted on the workshop in the paid mods section, but I think you get the point.

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