Thamriel of Tamriel

[westernnomad]

I've always been curious about the NPC Thamriel of Tamriel. Whether she's some sort of seer or just schizophrenic, her haunted inquiry about the white birds intrigues me. I have never seen her give a quest, but there seems to be a mystery worth investigating, if only there were a deeper story.

 

So... Is there a deeper story behind this spooky dark elf?

[Kjkirimi]

Dunmer

 

Dunmer, also called Dark Elves, hail from Morrowind.[13] They are the Elder Scrolls variation of dark elves, a popular fictional race in role-playing games and fantasy literature. Gameplay-wise, they are well-balanced (tending towards a battlemage or spellsword class) and are the recommended choice of race for new players, along with Imperials. The Dunmer are the descendants of the Chimer, who were punished by the Daedric goddess Azura for the betrayal of their General, Indoril Nerevar. Azura's punishment was to turn the color of all the Chimer race's skin to ash-gray and their eyes to ruby red.

 

Native-born Dunmer tend to look down on "outlanders", which are other races or Dunmer born outside of Morrowind, though the intensity of this xenophobia varies from place to place. The land from which the Dunmer hail is to the far east of the Empire and is commonly known as Morrowind (which contains the island of Vvardenfell). Slavery is practiced in Morrowind, and slaves are mostly either of Khajiit or Argonian descent, although some men and elves are also enslaved there, a practice that had been more common in the past. (Because of the past enslavement, some Khajiit and Argonians have a bone-deep hatred for the Dunmer.) The Empire of Tamriel has a ban on slavery but, as part of the terms of Morrowind's entrance into the Empire, Dunmer were allowed to keep their own sacred and traditional laws. However, in the sequel to Morrowind, Oblivion, it is revealed that slavery has been abolished and the slaves freed by the king of Morrowind Province, Hlaalu Helseth, with House Dres and House Hlaalu supporting the move. (Released or past escaped Khajiit slaves are attempting to mass in a Dunmer resistance in Elsweyr.) This can be discovered through dialogue with recurring characters from Morrowind.

 

Though some Dunmer, especially of House Hlaalu, have become assimilated into Imperial and foreign culture, almost all retain many of their traditions and values, and some Dunmer even prefer living a tribal life as Ashlanders - in small, tight-knit tribes in the deserts and scorched plains of the Ashlands and on the plains of the Grazelands. In the Ashlands, native tribes rule without laws or care for government, and live strictly by honour codes, rituals and ancient traditions usually dictated by a wise woman or seer. Historically, half of the ancient Dunmer chose this lifestyle, with the others creating or joining the Great Houses and establishing such cities as Balmora or Vivec. The land is so harsh and dangerously infested with creatures such as Alits and cliff racers that westerners and Imperial garrisonmen dare not venture out of the safety of Dunmer settled areas. Dunmer do not ride horses, or own them for that purpose - rather, horses in Morrowind are raised for the slaughter, to be eaten as food.[14][15] This fact mentioned, with some hesitation, by Morrowind's level designer Gary Noonan, during a development chat as a cautionary note against the possible inclusion of rideable horses in The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. A chat in which Morrowind's lead character designer also assured expectant consumers that, in Morrowind, there would be "no horse eating allowed".[16] Horses were definitively excluded from the game by Todd Howard in February 2001.[17] Ken Rolston offered the Dunmer diet as a rationale for why the game ended up without them.[15]

 

The Dunmer themselves, previously known as the Chimer, or 'changed folk' due to their worship of the Daedra, rather than the Aedra (Gods) worshipped by the other Aldmer in Summerset, traditionally gained their dark skin as a result of the Battle of Red Mountain. It was in this battle that the Dwemer vanished. The Dwemer are a major part of Dunmeri history. During the battle, all Dwemer mysteriously disappeared, presumably by their own technology. Though the change in the elves' skin tone was traditionally interpreted as the will of Azura, alternative theories certainly exist. The Dwemer's complex technology could have been the cause instead, as it functioned on a technological level incomprehensible to the "old-world" style, horses-and-swords environment present in the Elder Scrolls world. The official Imperial line of thought, however, is that the Dunmer simply exterminated the Dwemer and that their bluish-grey skin is the result of adaptation to their harsh, rather volcanic environment.

 

 

Here's some copy-paste from wiki. need more, click this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Races_of_The_Elder_Scrolls

[westernnomad]

Here's an example of HGEC syndrome. Too much HGEC can make you go blind. Take a break once in awhile, Kj. :wallbash:

 

I was asking specifically about Thamriel.

Edited January 4, 2011 by westernnomad

[Kjkirimi]

Oh, about that Thamriel...

Here's all the info i could find it. Some interesting facts though.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Thamriel

[westernnomad]

Oh, about that Thamriel...

Here's all the info i could find it. Some interesting facts though.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Thamriel

 

:pinch:

Hmm... Bosmer, eh? Yes, I have HGEC too... lol

 

btw, Sorry, I didn't mean to sound quite so... churlish... in my first response.

[Kjkirimi]

No problem. i saw Thamriel ( didn't quite see the H ) and Dark elf. i'm packing now so i was too distractred.

[SandsOfTime404]

Oddly enough I have never met this woman, and I tried making a point of running into the various nutjobs scattered around the world.

[wolfhowl88]

Maybe she's a relative of Thurindil?

[MarkInMKUK]

There's apparently a missing quest that Thamriel was going to be a part of, but it never got done in game

.

 

Having said that, there's an interesting glitch too - Elragail refers to Thamriel as "He". I have my own theories on that - one a fairly straighforward "wish went wrong" theory, and one rather darker and kinkier.

Edited February 25, 2011 by MarkInMKUK