Hickory Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I think your RAM changes must be coincidence. I don't see that a memory checker can have any effect on your RAM at all. I use OBSE 20 (some mods and plugins require it), and I have not noticed any difference -- heavily modded. Again, this may be coincidence on your part. But if you don't need 20, and you think that 19 will help, there is no reason not to go back to the older version, if it works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyro Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) I still have crashes. :( When I first start Oblivion, it loads really slow. Then when I get a pop-up saying "Reverted back to OBSE 19" I loads really fast. Here is the re-ordered load order.Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.0] 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 03 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 05 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 06 CM Partners.esm 07 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esm [Version 2.0] 08 RenBeautyPack_esm.esm 09 Wolven Anthros.esm 0A Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp 0B Beautiful_Women_SI.esp 0C Beautiful_Women_Vampires_50.esp 0D Handsome_Gents_SI.esp 0E Handsome_Gents_Vampires_50.esp 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp 10 LoadingScreens.esp 11 LoadingScreensSI.esp 12 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.0] 13 All Natural.esp [Version 1.0] 14 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.0] 15 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp 16 MIS.esp 17 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp 18 Silent Player Voice.esp 19 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 1A Brighter_Torches.esp 1B FGPorter_nofollow.esp 1C P1DseeYouSleep.esp 1D Update My Statue.esp [Version 1.30] 1E Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.3.1] 1F Crowded Roads 15.esp 20 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp 21 BWisteria.esp 22 DarkIllusionArmor.esp 23 DMACArmor.esp 24 Hel Borne Spear Set.esp 25 Nicos Tabaxi Bows.esp 26 PTArtifacts.esp 27 RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp 28 Spears of Cyrodiil.esp 29 Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp 2A NPR Knight Armor.esp 2B EY_Vampirehunter.esp 2C ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp 2D Shadowsilk-Roberts.esp 2E Battle China Dress.esp 2F Slof's Horses Base.esp 30 HorseTurnSpeed-Fast.esp [Version 1.0] 31 Francesco's Optional Files.esp 32 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 33 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 34 Creatures Alive v1.3.esp 35 BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.0.4] 36 Bruma Hunting Lodge.esp 37 ConLoBattleGenMod.esp 38 Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp 39 Guardians of the Nine - Akatosh Chantry.esp 3A ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp 3B ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp 3C ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp 3D Kragenir's Death Quest.esp 3E Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 3F LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp 40 Knights.esp 41 Knights_fem.esp 42 Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp 43 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 44 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] 45 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 46 RealisticFlora.esp [Version 2.7.0] 47 Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.2] 48 Leviathan Soulgems.esp 49 ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 4A Short Grass V3.esp 4B Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp 4C More Capacity Encumbrance.esp 4D Circ Vamp Aesthetics.esp 4E SetEssentialActors.esp 4F TeachSpell.esp 50 Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2] 51 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89] 52 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86] 53 SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86] 54 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80] 55 MidasSpells.esp 56 EnchantmentRestore.esp 57 EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp 58 EnchantingFreedomPlus.esp 59 SM Combat Hide.esp [Version 1.2] 5A ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp 5B More_Arrows_Recovered-2169.esp 5C Realistic Arrow Flight.esp 5D kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp 5E zzEDialog.esp 5F Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp 60 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp 61 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp [Version 1.0] 62 Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp [Version 1.0] 63 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp 64 Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp [Version 2.0] ** IDKRRR_C_race.esp 65 CM Partners.esp 66 CM Partners Special NPCs.esp 67 CM Partners NPC.esp 68 CM Partners More NPCs.esp 69 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 6A GG_Valeria_Revived.esp 6B DAFeria.esp 6C KT_CustomRaceFix.esp 6D Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-12 day lenght rescale.esp 6E [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp 6F GW71_Life_Detect.esp 70 Shining Creatures.esp [Version 1.2] ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] 71 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 72 Streamline 2.1.esp ** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp ** Cava Obscura - SI.esp ** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp 73 Wolven Anthros.esp 74 Respawning Waterfront Pirates.esp 75 Billyro_Eltonbrand.esp 76 Billyro_CM_NinaTabaxi.esp 77 ClothingAgeaKaranLight.esp 78 ZeldaHots.esp 79 Herculine's Tabaxi Companions.esp 7A HylianShield.esp 7B Billyro_DBweapons_replacer.esp 7C DS and GS Playable.esp 7D Better Looking Dremora Playable.esp 7E Priests of Dibella.esp 7F ElsweyrAnequinaFemaleBody.esp 80 ExoticLongsword.esp 81 MasterSwordDX.esp 82 Billyro_FightersGuild.esp 83 Lady Guards.esp 84 KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp 85 Billyro_AkatoshSword.esp 86 VA_GlamdringSword.esp 87 TestingHallWayshrines.esp 88 Slof's Amazon Armour.esp 89 kdRhazed.esp 8A AleswellHomeFree.esp 8B Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.7] 8C SPB Maid Armor Set 2.esp 8D TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp 8E SMChorrol.esp 8F Billyro_CM_LissasaWolvenAnthro.esp 90 CompanionTracker.esp 91 Billyro_RogueShirt.esp 92 BaronArmor.esp 93 Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp 94 Billyro_CoverEbony.esp 95 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts Fix.esp 96 Bearclaw_Helm_Replacer.esp 97 Steel_Cuirass_Female_by_rTw.esp 98 Billyro_Eunadil.esp 99 Billyro_NewArena.esp 9A Billyro_TabaxiWanderers.esp 9B Creature Damage Fix.esp 9C Billyro_GraniteShard.esp 9D TessaBlade.esp 9E HeavenlySonjaArmour.esp 9F Personality Idles - Modified version.esp A0 RenHeadMeshVanillaRace.esp EDIT: OMG! I can't believe I didn't see it. FRANCESCO'S OPTIONAL NEW CREATURES!I didn't download the resource pack for it because it was too large, and I accidentally activated it.I'll try Oblivion soon to see if it was the problem, but I don't know if it is. Creatures aren't usually found indoors... Are they? Edited February 6, 2011 by billyro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Your load list is still wrong. Right click on the File tab in Wrye Bash and make sure that BOSS Disable Lock Times is checked, and Lock Times is unchecked and run BOSS again, then rebuild your Bashed Patch -- you must rebuild your patch every time your run BOSS, add a mod, remove a mod, or edit a mod. Now then, for some reason these two plugins should be mergable (green), but are not:20 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp27 RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp Have you altered them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyro Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 I just downloaded the latest versions of BOSS and Wrye Bash, just to see if it made any difference.I'll just check "disable lock times" and "lock times"...Nope, I can't see it. Yes, I have altered Robert's male and female mods. The texture for Khajiit was messed up for both of them, so I relinked them to the right textures in the construction set. So I have re-ordered the load order again, rebuilt the patch, moved it to last in the load order, tried Oblivion again... And...So far so good. No crashes! :D There is still the occasional crash on a fast travel, but I can live with that. I think that the problem may be solved. I still don't get how merging mods into the bashed patch works though. Do I have to delete the mods after I have merged them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 If you have the latest version of Wrye Bash the 'Lock Times' and 'BOSS Disable Lock Times' will be there, as in this image: http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9199/wryebashmodlist.jpg Now, if your Robert's bodies were installed correctly, the Khajiit textures would be fine. If you have OBMM you can reinstall the female body and Slof's Khajiit textures with these two OMODs -- you will have to reinstall the male body manually:Robert Female Body NUDESlof's Khajiit Retexture Those two Robert plugins should be mergable, freeing up two valuable mod slots if you Auto Ghost your mods with Wrye Bash. It's not the just merging that prevents crashes with the Bashed Patch, but all of the other patching that Wrye Bash does, too. If you are still crashing on fast travel, turn 'Save on Fast Travel' off in your game options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyro Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 Ok. Pretty much all of my problems have been solved now. Thanks for all your help Hickory.kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Ok. Pretty much all of my problems have been solved now. Thanks for all your help Hickory.kudos. Excellent. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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