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I think your RAM changes must be coincidence. I don't see that a memory checker can have any effect on your RAM at all.

 

I use OBSE 20 (some mods and plugins require it), and I have not noticed any difference -- heavily modded. Again, this may be coincidence on your part. But if you don't need 20, and you think that 19 will help, there is no reason not to go back to the older version, if it works for you.

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I still have crashes. :(

 

When I first start Oblivion, it loads really slow. Then when I get a pop-up saying "Reverted back to OBSE 19" I loads really fast.

 

Here is the re-ordered load order.

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
03  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
05  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
06  CM Partners.esm
07  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esm  [Version 2.0]
08  RenBeautyPack_esm.esm
09  Wolven Anthros.esm
0A  Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp
0B  Beautiful_Women_SI.esp
0C  Beautiful_Women_Vampires_50.esp
0D  Handsome_Gents_SI.esp
0E  Handsome_Gents_Vampires_50.esp
0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
10  LoadingScreens.esp
11  LoadingScreensSI.esp
12  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]
13  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]
14  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
15  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
16  MIS.esp
17  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
18  Silent Player Voice.esp
19  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
1A  Brighter_Torches.esp
1B  FGPorter_nofollow.esp
1C  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
1D  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.30]
1E  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.3.1]
1F  Crowded Roads 15.esp
20  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
21  BWisteria.esp
22  DarkIllusionArmor.esp
23  DMACArmor.esp
24  Hel Borne Spear Set.esp
25  Nicos Tabaxi Bows.esp
26  PTArtifacts.esp
27  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
28  Spears of Cyrodiil.esp
29  Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp
2A  NPR Knight Armor.esp
2B  EY_Vampirehunter.esp
2C  ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp
2D  Shadowsilk-Roberts.esp
2E  Battle China Dress.esp
2F  Slof's Horses Base.esp
30  HorseTurnSpeed-Fast.esp  [Version 1.0]
31  Francesco's Optional Files.esp
32  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
33  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
34  Creatures Alive v1.3.esp
35  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
36  Bruma Hunting Lodge.esp
37  ConLoBattleGenMod.esp
38  Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp
39  Guardians of the Nine - Akatosh Chantry.esp
3A  ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp
3B  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
3C  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
3D  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
3E  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
3F  LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp
40  Knights.esp
41  Knights_fem.esp
42  Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp
43  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
44  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
45  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
46  RealisticFlora.esp  [Version 2.7.0]
47  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]
48  Leviathan Soulgems.esp
49  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
4A  Short Grass V3.esp
4B  Lynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.esp
4C  More Capacity Encumbrance.esp
4D  Circ Vamp Aesthetics.esp
4E  SetEssentialActors.esp
4F  TeachSpell.esp
50  Telekinetic Mastery.esp  [Version 2]
51  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]
52  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]
53  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]
54  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]
55  MidasSpells.esp
56  EnchantmentRestore.esp
57  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp
58  EnchantingFreedomPlus.esp
59  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]
5A  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp
5B  More_Arrows_Recovered-2169.esp
5C  Realistic Arrow Flight.esp
5D  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp
5E  zzEDialog.esp
5F  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
60  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
61  Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]
62  Nec Mystic Dark Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]
63  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
64  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp  [Version 2.0]
**  IDKRRR_C_race.esp
65  CM Partners.esp
66  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
67  CM Partners NPC.esp
68  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
69  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
6A  GG_Valeria_Revived.esp
6B  DAFeria.esp
6C  KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
6D  Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-12 day lenght rescale.esp
6E  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
6F  GW71_Life_Detect.esp
70  Shining Creatures.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
71  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
72  Streamline 2.1.esp
**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp
**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
73  Wolven Anthros.esp
74  Respawning Waterfront Pirates.esp
75  Billyro_Eltonbrand.esp
76  Billyro_CM_NinaTabaxi.esp
77  ClothingAgeaKaranLight.esp
78  ZeldaHots.esp
79  Herculine's Tabaxi Companions.esp
7A  HylianShield.esp
7B  Billyro_DBweapons_replacer.esp
7C  DS and GS Playable.esp
7D  Better Looking Dremora Playable.esp
7E  Priests of Dibella.esp
7F  ElsweyrAnequinaFemaleBody.esp
80  ExoticLongsword.esp
81  MasterSwordDX.esp
82  Billyro_FightersGuild.esp
83  Lady Guards.esp
84  KW-AlliesPlayNicer.esp
85  Billyro_AkatoshSword.esp
86  VA_GlamdringSword.esp
87  TestingHallWayshrines.esp
88  Slof's Amazon Armour.esp
89  kdRhazed.esp
8A  AleswellHomeFree.esp
8B  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]
8C  SPB Maid Armor Set 2.esp
8D  TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp
8E  SMChorrol.esp
8F  Billyro_CM_LissasaWolvenAnthro.esp
90  CompanionTracker.esp
91  Billyro_RogueShirt.esp
92  BaronArmor.esp
93  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
94  Billyro_CoverEbony.esp
95  ImpeREAL City Unique Districts Fix.esp
96  Bearclaw_Helm_Replacer.esp
97  Steel_Cuirass_Female_by_rTw.esp
98  Billyro_Eunadil.esp
99  Billyro_NewArena.esp
9A  Billyro_TabaxiWanderers.esp
9B  Creature Damage Fix.esp
9C  Billyro_GraniteShard.esp
9D  TessaBlade.esp
9E  HeavenlySonjaArmour.esp
9F  Personality Idles - Modified version.esp
A0  RenHeadMeshVanillaRace.esp

 

 

EDIT: OMG! I can't believe I didn't see it. FRANCESCO'S OPTIONAL NEW CREATURES!

I didn't download the resource pack for it because it was too large, and I accidentally activated it.

I'll try Oblivion soon to see if it was the problem, but I don't know if it is. Creatures aren't usually found indoors... Are they?

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Your load list is still wrong. Right click on the File tab in Wrye Bash and make sure that BOSS Disable Lock Times is checked, and Lock Times is unchecked and run BOSS again, then rebuild your Bashed Patch -- you must rebuild your patch every time your run BOSS, add a mod, remove a mod, or edit a mod.

 

Now then, for some reason these two plugins should be mergable (green), but are not:

20 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

27 RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

 

Have you altered them?

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I just downloaded the latest versions of BOSS and Wrye Bash, just to see if it made any difference.

I'll just check "disable lock times" and "lock times"...

Nope, I can't see it.

 

Yes, I have altered Robert's male and female mods. The texture for Khajiit was messed up for both of them, so I relinked them to the right textures in the construction set.

 

So I have re-ordered the load order again, rebuilt the patch, moved it to last in the load order, tried Oblivion again... And...

So far so good. No crashes! :D

There is still the occasional crash on a fast travel, but I can live with that.

 

I think that the problem may be solved. I still don't get how merging mods into the bashed patch works though.

 

Do I have to delete the mods after I have merged them?

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If you have the latest version of Wrye Bash the 'Lock Times' and 'BOSS Disable Lock Times' will be there, as in this image:

 

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9199/wryebashmodlist.jpg

 

Now, if your Robert's bodies were installed correctly, the Khajiit textures would be fine. If you have OBMM you can reinstall the female body and Slof's Khajiit textures with these two OMODs -- you will have to reinstall the male body manually:

Robert Female Body NUDE

Slof's Khajiit Retexture

 

Those two Robert plugins should be mergable, freeing up two valuable mod slots if you Auto Ghost your mods with Wrye Bash.

 

It's not the just merging that prevents crashes with the Bashed Patch, but all of the other patching that Wrye Bash does, too.

 

If you are still crashing on fast travel, turn 'Save on Fast Travel' off in your game options.

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Ok. Pretty much all of my problems have been solved now.

 

Thanks for all your help Hickory.

kudos.

 

Excellent. :wink:

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