File sorting filters are sometimes effectively useless

[RicAdbur]

Whenever I'm looking for cool armor/clothing mods for Bethesda games like Skyrim or New Vegas, I have a hell of a time sorting through page after page of female character skimpy outfits that I'm not interested in using, regardless of what preferences or filters I try to apply to my browsing. I only ever play as a male character in these games, and if I want to see sexy women I'll just go watch porn. So I try to use the filters the site provides but they don't really seem to do anything at all. If I have "for male characters" selected and "for female characters" unselected, I still get all of the "TYPE 3 BODY BELLYDANCER OUTFIT" or "SUPER SHORT CUTOFF JEANS" kind of stuff.

 

Why is it that we have the option to "screen" our browsing if it doesn't even work? When I try to sort by male character mods only I expect to find stuff only for male characters, or stuff that works for both genders. If I don't have "skimpy or sexy" content selected I expect not to have to sift through page after page where at least 75% of the content is precisely that. It makes the whole mod browsing experience quite tedious.

 

Can't something be done to make these tools actually work?

[DrakeTheDragon]

Keep in mind these filters all work based on "tags". Tagging is community business.

Many authors give you a head-start and pre-tag their mods accordingly to what they "think" is right, but honestly not everybody knows what to tag their mods with.

That's where the users come into play. It needs only 3 people in agreement for a new tag to become validated and set in stone unless the author objects.

 

So, if you see mods where the filters don't work, check their tags, and if something's missing or off, add your vote to how it should be instead. It needs only 2 more then and your wish will be granted.

There's surely a bunch of as-of-now still untagged mods left in the file database, especially also because tags were in many cases only introduced after countless of files have already been published months or years ago.

Do yourself, and others, a favor and help in fixing it. You people yourselves are in control of it.

 

And if you witness a properly tagged mod still not affected by your filter options, "then" you can contact support and will either receive help in figuring out what "you" did wrong (many people encountering issues with tags and content filtering just either mixed up inclusion and exclusion tags, or they had some content block directives in effect which they simply missed or forgot about), or the developer staff can be informed when there's really something wonky with the site and a reproducible malfunction occurs.

[RicAdbur]

You want me to sort through pages of mods I never intend to use in the vague hope that adding my "vote" to it will someday properly sort it into a category where I won't have to look at it anymore? Forgive me but that seems unreasonable and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would think so. In fact I'd guess that there are very few people who would actually be willing to spend the significant amount of time that would require. I could spend hours trying to correctly tag mod after mod and still it would likely in most cases change nothing. All I would get is the vague hope that maybe someday I might get a portion of the results I was hoping for.

 

It seems to me that it should be the responsibility of the site's administration to ensure that mods are properly sorted and that the website's tools for sorting and finding work properly for the userbase, especially since this crowdsource mentality doesn't seem to be working out very well and so many mods are falling through the cracks. If there are files that are holdovers from before there were tags, or other files that are tagged incorrectly, then they should be fixed by the staff here, not simply left to however long it will take for the users to eventually fix through consensus, if they ever even do.

Edited June 26, 2015 by RicAdbur

[JimboUK]

You want me to sort through pages of mods I never intend to use in the vague hope that adding my "vote" to it will someday properly sort it into a category where I won't have to look at it anymore? Forgive me but that seems unreasonable and I'm sure I'm not the only one who would think so. In fact I'd guess that there are very few people who would actually be willing to spend the significant amount of time that would require. I could spend hours trying to correctly tag mod after mod and still it would likely in most cases change nothing. All I would get is the vague hope that maybe someday I might get a portion of the results I was hoping for.

 

It seems to me that it should be the responsibility of the site's administration to ensure that mods are properly sorted and that the website's tools for sorting and finding work properly for the userbase, especially since this crowdsource mentality doesn't seem to be working out very well and so many mods are falling through the cracks. If there are files that are holdovers from before there were tags, or other files that are tagged incorrectly, then they should be fixed by the staff here, not simply left to however long it will take for the users to eventually fix through consensus, if they ever even do.

 

No one expects you to go through files you're not going to use but you can tag those you have used, if everyone did that the system would work. You can't expect the staff to go through well in excess of 100,000 files tagging all of them, that would be ridiculous. The problem isn't the site, the problem is the majority of its userbase, all they do is take, they don't tag anything, thank authors, endorse or do anything else.

[PrimalSavage]

Keep in mind these filters all work based on "tags". Tagging is community business.

Many authors give you a head-start and pre-tag their mods accordingly to what they "think" is right, but honestly not everybody knows what to tag their mods with.

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...The problem isn't the site, the problem is the majority of its userbase, all they do is take, they don't tag anything, thank authors, endorse or do anything else.

 

 

I obviously agree with what you guys are saying, but why not add a search checkbox along the lines of:

 

"Remove Mods w/ no tags"

 

and/or force Modders to select at least one tag (Even if they're not sure about anything else, they should at least know the language it is in).

[bben46]

Tag them mods people that is the ONLY way it can work. :thumbsup:

And for those that get upset when a mod isn't tagged, there were thousands of mods uploaded here before the tag system was implemented - The ONLY way they will get tagged is if users actually take a minute and tag them. If only one out of 100 members that visit tag just one mod a day - we would have nearly every mod tagged in a week. :dance: