The situation in Egypt

[Aurielius]

That depends on the leader, no one will cry over the loss of Gaddafi. I agree we should stay out of it, sadly it looks like we're not going to. I'm just thinking of the best to option to reduce the risk of losses to our people. The no fly zone may not make a lot of difference on the ground, arming the rebels may be storing up trouble in a country as tribal as Libya and putting boots on the ground is surely unthinkable?

I agree that no one will miss Gaddafi either in the west or the near east and would like us to take a pass if possible but I still remember Lockerbie (had a friend on that flight). So if and when that maniac gets his just deserts I will not shed a tear. If the recent leaks relating to the fact that Gaddafi personally ordered the bombing are true then I hope his trip to hell is sooner rather than later and I don't mind who pulls the trigger on him.

Edited March 2, 2011 by Aurielius

[HappyHerring]

That depends on the leader, no one will cry over the loss of Gaddafi. I agree we should stay out of it, sadly it looks like we're not going to. I'm just thinking of the best to option to reduce the risk of losses to our people. The no fly zone may not make a lot of difference on the ground, arming the rebels may be storing up trouble in a country as tribal as Libya and putting boots on the ground is surely unthinkable?

I agree that no one will miss Gaddafi either in the west or the near east and would like us to take a pass if possible but I still remember Lockerbie (had a friend on that flight). So if and when that maniac gets his just deserts I will not shed a tear. If the recent leaks relating to the fact that Gaddafi personally ordered the bombing are true then I hope his trip to hell is sooner rather than later and I don't mind who pulls the trigger on him.

I agree that no one would miss him and the world would probably be a happier place, I just think that the ability of arab leaders to bluster and be hypocritical is beyond even that of our dear leaders and that they are indeed experts in biting the hand that feeds. The pride which americans hold in throwing off a ruthless and blood drenched imperial overlord shines through today as does the noble french pride in throwing off the unwanted guests from Paris just a few decades ago. It will cost a lot of blood but it may well be worth it for future libyans if they can use the cost of liberation to motivate themselves to defend a true democratic Libya. :whistling:

[Aurielius]

Sen. John McCain, top Republican on the Armed Services Committee, kept up the pressure on the Administration Friday to establish a no-fly zone in Libya, an option President Obama said, a day earlier, was still on the table.

Following a closed door briefing with Pentagon officials, the Arizona senator told reporters, "Logic dictates that if the Secretary of State and the President of the United States says (Libyan leader Muammar) Qaddafi must go, one of the measures that would hasten his departure would be a no-fly zone, which would inhibit his ability to prevail militarily."

McCain, who recently returned from a fact-finding trip to the Middle East, said though the U.S. can provide humanitarian assistance and "some covert activity from providing satellite imagery" to rebel forces, he emphatically dismissed any direct involvement of American soldiers. "I do not subscribe or advocate ground troops - U.S ground troops - in Libya. Let me make that clear." ~ API

 

It looks like even we (US) are moving closer to the Anglo/French view of the situation.

[JimboUK]

Cameron and Sarkozy will be glad to hear that, they were looking a little isolated on the world stage.